Heck idk. Any of your custom rigs vs my stock unbedded rifle. 5 five shot groups for a total of 25 rounds. Since some one said above it wouldn't do it consistently that should cover it. As many warm up shots as you want. I guess average all five groups. Best average wins. You can pick the yardage from 100-400. Bet is a 12 pack.

Can you tell i made that up as I went along.

Lol. You betting me or him. I am confused

I know we are both going to range next month same time to get my rifle and Kacee's ready for Africa trip.

Heck I was betting you. But I can buy more than one 12pk.

Come on out and shoot with us I will buy beer just for you driving out

Let me know where and when and I'll try to make it.

I'm not a crack shot by any means, but I can shoot one inch groups at 100 yards with any of my rifles, none of which have bedded receivers. I shoot my tightest groups with a Remington ADL that doesn't have a bedded receiver, nor a free floated barrel.

I'm done with this thread after this reply. It's not that different weights don't stabilize in 1/10 twist barrels it that different sporter weight barrels have different harmonics and may shoot different bullet weights differently. Some rifles shoot flat based bullets better than boattails some are the opposite.

I'm sure the 600 dollar synthetic stock and mag box assembly have zero to do with it.

You should of asked JG about the components, that more or less accomplish the same thing as pillar/ bedding.

Ya'll can take a decent thread and crap all over it. Who gives a [censored] at this point.

I've seen many unbedded factory rifles shoot very well for a hunting gun. BR and hunting rifles are 2 totally different concepts.

I get that but its still part of the process of elimination when having accuracy issues.

Makes little sense if your gun is moa or better in all types of environmental conditions but if its not why not do it. Cheap insurance.

Why not go a head a true /blueprint an action if your going to rebarrel same kind of deal

Yep... by the way your stock shipped today and your barrel is getting contoured next week so bout 10-14 days out back to ya. So getting really close

McMillan A-5 and CDI bottom metal. Stock is not bedded. I can provide 513 yard 5 shot group and 100 yard 3 shot group if requested.

Yes, Chad it gets dirty, quick. And I don't know why it turns into a wiener measuring contest.

That's my point, think it would shoot just as good in a take off adl stock?

Bedding is never a bad idea. Especially if you hunt multiple enviromental conditions.

Is bedding the end all be all not at all but cheap insurance, just like why you have cheap mounts and rings and expensive ones, probably a good idea to lap them both.

Hell with it, I'll do it anyway.

Not bedded McMillan A-5. Savage action that is unmodified, and still wearing an Accutrigger. All shots prone with rear bag, and Harris 6-9" bipod.

513 yards. 140 gr. Hornady A-max



111 yards. 130 Berger VLD, 3 shots. Ended up .09", and this aint a bench rest gun.



Why bed it?

Me likey

Would it make shoot worse? Could it make it shoot even better?

Wow...didn't realize I was opening such a can of worms. This thread sure exploded. Thanks to everyone who posted a reply that was helpful. I will be taking most of this into account when I take the rifle out this Sat to shoot it hopefully. I'm going to borrow a torque wrench to make sure the action screws are properly tightened and shoot a few rounds before letting the barrel cool so that I know the barrel being too clean isn't an issue. I'm then going to try a few different grain bullets of various brands and see what happens. I'll be shooting off sand bags and though I don't claim to be all world, I can certainly hold my own when it comes to being a good shot. I will take some pics of the groups I shoot if I make it out and will post either on this or a new thread for you guys to take a look at and see if that will help diagnose the issue if it's still not shooting like i'd like. Thanks again.

Was this a flat top or full inlet a5 ????

I ordered a McMillan A-5. When it wanted to know what action to inlet for I filled in Savage short action.

BMD, no it won't get worse, and I doubt I can shoot better than that. Again, why bed it, just to say I did? It's not a hard recoiling round, and it gets shot with a brake or a suppressor. This barrel is about done so bedding is not on my to-do list. My 7 Rem Mag shooting 180's is bedded and it weighs much less. I felt it was going to be necessary, and it probably was. I never shot it un-bedded.

Why buy insurance if you are good driver? Crap happens

Not the same thing.

A machine is working very well, and you want to modify the machine to maybe, make it better, maybe not. I don't have time for that BS. A third of my life is spent at a fire station and the other two thirds are spent running a private rifle range and a fabrication business. I have better things to do than bed a rifle that isn't showing me it needs it.

It will damn sure make it more consistent if you don't think so shoot it how you want it is yours, but to recommend not doing it is not the best plan. To each his own bedding is only another part that improves and makes a rifle more consistent.

That's right. What's wrong with him tightening action screws and going back to the range? Maybe it'll shoot 1" for 5 at 100. Bedding might make it shoot 3/4" for 5 at 100. Maybe 1" is good enough for him, if not, bed the action. I also replied to the comments made than an un-bedded rifle won't shoot well. I proved otherwise.

The point you missed is that I was on the side of tighten everything down, go shoot the rifle. Improvement? Yes or no? If yes, good, if no, we need to look at other possibilities and one of those possibilities is to bed the action. But that is step two, not step one. I want everyone to shoot more, that's how we get better. What's it going to hurt having him tighten action screws (free by the way) and go back to the range and retest? This is science, not voodoo. Eliminate variables, one at a time.

I'd have a rifle bedded if nothing else worked, but on second thought maybe I'd just get rid of the rifle. I have two that are bedded and a few that aren't. The most recent (Tikka) isn't bedded, and I did worry a bit about the synthetic stock, but there was no need to worry. It's the best shooter I have.

I do have one rifle that shoots pretty good (Ruger Hawkeye in 223), but now that I have the Tikka I want the Ruger to shoot that good too. Rather than restock and bed it, I will probably have a new high dollar barrel put on it and have the action squared up. I won't have it bedded.

Somebody did say that "it can't hurt to bed it", and he's probably right. I can't argue with that, but I probably still won't go that way again.