Yep...you proved us wrong! Please, don't pretend to have a clue...everyone knows you don't.

Wow and thankfully all of them are identical right?

For all the naysayers why don't you guys go post on BR Central and ask if bedding is important. Then ask how many unbedded rifles finish in the top 10.

The answer would be yes and zero.

Consistency not conjecture wins. Everytime.

No one has thrown a shooters ability into this equation. I have seen countless "shooters" spend untold amounts of money on the supposed "best of the best", built by the best, designed by the best.... "whatever" and still couldn't put 3 shots together at any yardage. And what was their answer? "I need to go spend some more money and have this rifle worked on some more". And as others have mentioned what is the measure of accuracy? I have seen very few rifles from any manufacturer that would NOT shoot 1" at 100! To me that is not that outstanding of a benchmark I expect it from just about any modern rifle out of the box. Give a rifle to 10 different shooters and see how many different group sizes you get.

Edit: Because I know better.

The OP is talking about a 8.75lb rifle that isn't shooting. Folks post that tightening screws, checking twist is what it takes. Bedding is not an issue or important.

The point is 95% of people shooting rifles on this site don't know what makes a rifle tick. Interjecting that I have 15 unbedded rifles that shoot in the teens is no help whatsoever.

Far as all factory rifles being expected to shoot 1" or less is pure hogwash. The occasional one? Yes. Truly average 1" or less without doing anything? You have a gem or are on some serious meds.

You not meant as "you". I'm using quick reply.

We're talking about the rifle not the shooter but that being said your right. Some spend thousands and can't hit a trash can lid at 50 yds.

How does that help the OP?

This is true. And as you stated a few post above, all of my rifles that shoot well from the factory are similar. Made in Finland. I also appreciate you sharing your knowledge without undue negativity.

If you bed the ones that aren't you think they will shoot worse?

If this is to me then I will say the only one that is not is a savage and it is bedded. 1.5" groups before. .75" after bedding. I believe bedding is a plus. I'm only stating a rifle does not have to be bedded to shoot well.

Peach on this is good stuff!

Think may be missing what he is saying. I tell customers this all the time. Its is all about reducing margin of error. You want to know that if the group is off that statistically it is you not the gun, just take out all the variables you can within your budget. Will some guns shoot great with out anything.. yeah. But most need a little something to get them there.

Then why not bed the ones that aren't

I guess because they already shoot better than I can and one in particular better than most custom guns. It's the only one I target shoot with at any range. The rest are T3 lites and I want to keep the weight down for hunting.

I stand behind that statement. Loser buys the beer. I like Dos Equis.

Dos Equis sucks.

Try Negra Modelo. Nectar of the gods.

This is just plain silliness!

Maybe it is to you. I don't see a purpose in adding weight to a .5-.6" gun that's going to used at 250 yards or less. Even a few ounces is not worth it to me.

Great you're back. The one that insults everyone that has a different opinion. Get off your vacation from the THF did ya? And now right back to old habits. No way can my rifles shoot, no way can I shoot since I don't do it your way. Same as everyone else around here that does it different from you.

Here we go again.

No, never mind putting you on ignore.

Good deal.

Now I won't have to read about your tighten the hell out of them comments. Most informative.

How's your 14lb .260 shooting and how does it compare to the 8.75lb .300WSM?

Oh wait it doesn't.

Grow up little man and post something useful once in awhile.

Really the bedding weight is a deal breaker. That is comical.

Where you hunting with these light weights, like to see some pics of hunts that bedding weight would truly matter. Those would be awesome hunts with really great views from up there.

You forgot to post the factory offerings that won't stabilize properly in a 1-10 twist which is standard for a .308.

We'll all be waiting with baited breath......

I guess I was foolish to get into a conversation about this. Guess I'm the idiot here. But talk all the [censored] you want. The offers on the table. Loser buys the beer.

What's the bet