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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: Navasot] #2657819 10/13/11 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: Navasotbred
Im very happy to be in a state that allows me the most room to do what i want with MY land and hunt it how i choose fit...i love the fact i can put a feeder out..sorry we dnt have standing crop fields around every turn...and food plots and blind setups and all this just adds to the experiance....


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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: Curtis] #2657849 10/13/11 02:42 PM
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All I know is I'm very lucky to do what I do and am able to enjoy the outdoors as much as I do.

To me hunting is more than just taking a animal for meat.


Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: cameron00] #2657885 10/13/11 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: cameron00
The Native Americans were trying to be as sporting as possible when they drove herds of buffalo off of cliffs.
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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: SNAFU] #2657993 10/13/11 03:23 PM
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Seems like the last 8 or 10 years I've done a lot more hunting than harvesting.



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: Texan Til I Die] #2658268 10/13/11 04:37 PM
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I harvest does. To fill our quota we corn the heck out of our hunt area and shoot all the does we can. It's a turkey shoot for the first and sometimes second weekend of the season.

After that it's time to settle in and hunt your buck. I know in my mind what kind of buck I want. It's a waiting game that takes patience and discipline. I'm not hunting just any buck, but a specific buck or type of buck. I've hunted for weeks and sometimes a month or more waiting for just the right buck. In the meantime I've passed up on 120, 130, 140 and even 150 class bucks waiting for just the right one.

Hunting is what you make of it. If you like spot and stalk then west Texas is for you. If you like seeing large numbers of deer then head to the hill country. You want to see large numbers of big bucks then head south.

That's the great thing about Texas, we have just about every kind of geographical region imaginable. Take your pick.



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: LandPirate] #2658284 10/13/11 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
I harvest does. To fill our quota we corn the heck out of our hunt area and shoot all the does we can. It's a turkey shoot for the first and sometimes second weekend of the season.

After that it's time to settle in and hunt your buck. I know in my mind what kind of buck I want. It's a waiting game that takes patience and discipline. I'm not hunting just any buck, but a specific buck or type of buck. I've hunted for weeks and sometimes a month or more waiting for just the right buck. In the meantime I've passed up on 120, 130, 140 and even 150 class bucks waiting for just the right one.

Hunting is what you make of it. If you like spot and stalk then west Texas is for you. If you like seeing large numbers of deer then head to the hill country. You want to see large numbers of big bucks then head south.

That's the great thing about Texas, we have just about every kind of geographical region imaginable. Take your pick.


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He was tough to pass up but just wasn't what I had in mind for the spot over the fireplace.



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: txshntr] #2658316 10/13/11 04:52 PM
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Harvesting is just a fancy word for killing. Let's not get it confused; whether you use the word kill, manage, cull, harvest, thinning the heard; it doesn't matter. You're killing.


The word hunting is subjective. Are you hunting a particular deer? Hunting meat? Are you just sitting in a stand with a buddy? Are you climbing a mountain?

I don't use the word harvesting because that's what you do with corn, beans, or lettuce. And to me, hunting and hunting hard are two different things.

Just my opinion.



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stalking is tougher and more rewarding, but even if you bait and sit you still put plenty of scouting and work in also. Same as taking a deer 30 yards away with a bow? no, but you should still feel proud anyway.



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: mideon2000] #2658538 10/13/11 06:10 PM
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Some of you need to read the definition of hunting.

If you shoot a chicken in your backyard, you're hunting.


Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: cameron00] #2658543 10/13/11 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: cameron00
The Native Americans were trying to be as sporting as possible when they drove herds of buffalo off of cliffs.


they were harvesting on a massive scale. kinda like a farmer and a combine




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Originally Posted By: vanguard
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The Native Americans were trying to be as sporting as possible when they drove herds of buffalo off of cliffs.


they were harvesting on a massive scale. kinda like a farmer and a combine


Again, harvesting is fancy word for killing.



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Originally Posted By: Mud Shark
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The Native Americans were trying to be as sporting as possible when they drove herds of buffalo off of cliffs.


they were harvesting on a massive scale. kinda like a farmer and a combine


Again, harvesting is fancy word for killing.


i get where your coming from, however if anybody harvested a deer it would be an indian, they used everybit of that animal, for clothes, tools, food, weapons.




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Fair enough.

I just think the word "harvesting" started getting used in hunting deer when it really started becoming a business instead of recreation. It's a little more "politaclly correct".


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yes its a way of sugar coating it




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Harvesting is the politicly correct word so you wont offened any tofu eating tree huggin hippies. I dont care what they think I hunted it, and I killed it.


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Originally Posted By: cameron00
The Native Americans were trying to be as sporting as possible when they drove herds of buffalo off of cliffs.
Man thats way over used by people who do not really know how or why it was done or the numbers involved. I know when you hear herd, people assume hundreds or thousands. Sure maybe on occasion but often than not, as small as number as possible were taken. Keep in mind this would also involve the entire tribal family group(30-100 or more people depending on time of year) and sometimes multiple family tribal groups. Remember Custer he attacked a "gathering" that is estimated at 2,000-5,000 warriors, add the non-warriers from the family group and you'll end up with a gathering of 8,000-12,000. Do you need to drive a heard of buffalo off a cliff, into a ravine etc... to feed and clotch your people. You bet you do.

Today I hunt for the sport, traditions and ejoyment it brings of being outdoors. I'll take one or two deer a year.


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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: Mud Shark] #2659479 10/13/11 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mud Shark
Harvesting is just a fancy word for killing. Let's not get it confused; whether you use the word kill, manage, cull, harvest, thinning the heard; it doesn't matter. You're killing.


The word hunting is subjective. Are you hunting a particular deer? Hunting meat? Are you just sitting in a stand with a buddy? Are you climbing a mountain?

I don't use the word harvesting because that's what you do with corn, beans, or lettuce. And to me, hunting and hunting hard are two different things.

Just my opinion.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harvest?show=1&t=1318549317

As hunters, we need to use the word harvest when talking to certain people. Hunting is not killing. Just like fishing is not catching. Hunting and fishing is the process in which we kill or catch. Harvesting is the taking of something.


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Harvesting is what I do after I hunted it and killed it! Hunting is what I do when I plan on killing and harvesting. Killing is what I do after I hunted it & found it. After I kill it I gather it up (harvest)and take it home.

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Originally Posted By: Rcinit
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The Native Americans were trying to be as sporting as possible when they drove herds of buffalo off of cliffs.
Man thats way over used by people who do not really know how or why it was done or the numbers involved. I know when you hear herd, people assume hundreds or thousands. Sure maybe on occasion but often than not, as small as number as possible were taken. Keep in mind this would also involve the entire tribal family group(30-100 or more people depending on time of year) and sometimes multiple family tribal groups. Remember Custer he attacked a "gathering" that is estimated at 2,000-5,000 warriors, add the non-warriers from the family group and you'll end up with a gathering of 8,000-12,000. Do you need to drive a heard of buffalo off a cliff, into a ravine etc... to feed and clotch your people. You bet you do.

Today I hunt for the sport, traditions and ejoyment it brings of being outdoors. I'll take one or two deer a year.


Thanks for the history lesson, Mr Reads Way Too Much Into A Simple Post.


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Originally Posted By: Hunt n Fish
Harvesting is what I do after I hunted it and killed it! Hunting is what I do when I plan on killing and harvesting. Killing is what I do after I hunted it & found it. After I kill it I gather it up (harvest)and take it home.

Don't believe in that PC stuff. Look at the mess it's already got us in!


EGG-Zactly! happy3 I agree, after I kill it I gather it up too..

Now I do sometimes harvest some vegatables when I have the time to grow them. rofl


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You're right; hunting is to fishing as killing is to catching. Two totally differnt thing.

Hunting is the act of finding and stalking an animal, or sitting in a blind and waiting for them. As some hifaluters say, harvesting, is the actual act of killing, whether it be with a fire arm, bow and arrow, knife, or a rock. It doesn't matter. Like I've said, it's just a fancy word.

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After reading all the comments, I guess I am a Harvester. IMO not really true hunting sitting in a blind and waiting for the deer to come to the corn, but thats what we do. I know on my great gradfathers land that they were all "harvesters" because back in those old days no mattter what time of year it was, if they were out of meat, he would grab the 30-30, go out back and take a deer to put food on the table, they did what they had to do to provide, so I think he was a harvester as well. If you are in it for the meat, then I personally beleive that you are a harvester, if you are in it for the horns, then I think you are more of a hunter.


I think you are right on the money, but I would say that if you are in it only for the horns then you are a selfish person. I think that the only animals that shouldnt be eaten are animals that cant be eaten (coyotes, cats, etc.) If you cant show the animal enough respect to actually put the animal to good use, then well, IMO you shouldnt be hunting.


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After reading all the comments, I guess I am a Harvester. IMO not really true hunting sitting in a blind and waiting for the deer to come to the corn, but thats what we do. I know on my great gradfathers land that they were all "harvesters" because back in those old days no mattter what time of year it was, if they were out of meat, he would grab the 30-30, go out back and take a deer to put food on the table, they did what they had to do to provide, so I think he was a harvester as well. If you are in it for the meat, then I personally beleive that you are a harvester, if you are in it for the horns, then I think you are more of a hunter.


I think you are right on the money, but I would say that if you are in it only for the horns then you are a selfish person. I think that the only animals that shouldnt be eaten are animals that cant be eaten (coyotes, cats, etc.) If you cant show the animal enough respect to actually put the animal to good use, then well, IMO you shouldnt be hunting.


Really jram? We don't have to hunt for food anymore. Life is easier now than what it used to be. Hunting is more of a sport now, not harvesting an animal to feed the family. Yes, we do still feed the family with that meat, but we don't, as a whole population, rely on it anymore.



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In college... I must admit, I kinda relied on hunting to feed myself. Between elk, deer, duck, dove, quail, hogs, and crane (mmmm....crane....), my roommates and I were kept fed at a fraction of the price it woulda cost us otherwise. Call me oldfashioned, but I take great pride in living off of what I harvest. Usually even had enough left before the start of the hunting season that I could throw a nice wild-game tailgate party at UNT's first home game.


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