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Hunting vs Harvesting #2655715 10/12/11 10:25 PM
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The art of hunting being lost ??? Is the art of hunting being lost in the age of feeders and cam's and decoy's and all the other things they sell at Cabela's, and the other box sports stores....



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yes.

hunting is goin afield to hunt, shooting is secondary. We still are able to "hunt" ducks, quail, phesant,rabbits, squirrels, etc.

99% of deer hunting in texas is more of a harvesting method.

nothing wrong with it, however, as long as people get outdoors



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: txtrophy85] #2656126 10/13/11 12:14 AM
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I don't use corn in oklahoma but due use a hang on stand



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You "hunt" for animals and "harvest" crops. Thats the way I see it.


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I hunt to kill with any method however that is legal.



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: stxranchman] #2656203 10/13/11 12:37 AM
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I primarily hunt to enjoy the time in the field both by myself and with friends. I only hunt mature buck deer thus I seldom let an arrow fly. On the other hand I like to do my part to thin the Kansas doe population and truly enjoy hunting them with a bow.

Running trail cams and viewing all of the great pics gives me a lot of satisfaction as well. Kind of fun to pick out a target deer from the trail cams and go for him, that is unless something better comes along.

I have grandchildren now and look forward to spending lots of time with them in the outdoors both fishing and hunting.


Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: jcoutdoors] #2656252 10/13/11 12:47 AM
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About 200 years ago, this same question was poised in regards to muskets versus bows and spears.

It's constantly evolving. The technology may improve, but the animals evolve with it.


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I enjoy watching all the animals. I think what I do here is a selective harvest, we pull the deer out with feed and take the bucks and does that need to go. The feed is also good for managing the hogs. When I feel the need to hardcore hunt, I go on a Elk or Muley hunt..



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: Stompy] #2656289 10/13/11 12:55 AM
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I dont think i have ever harvested any animals. I sure have killed a few while hunting though.



Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: cameron00] #2656316 10/13/11 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted By: cameron00
About 200 years ago, this same question was poised in regards to muskets versus bows and spears.

It's constantly evolving. The technology may improve, but the animals evolve with it.

Very true


Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: Stompy] #2656334 10/13/11 01:03 AM
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So you don't think you're great grand-pappy hunting over the only local water source or an oak tree dropping acorns is really any different?

Why complain about people who are willing to support an entire industry? Think of the jobs that would be lost if the manufacturers of the products you seem to find so destressing to our sport just up and closed.

I don't comment on other's methods of hunting. Do I want to watch a dog get cut up, then stick a hog in the heart with a knife? No, but I don't look down at those that do.

I do comment on the chest thumper threads though. Not saying that's what you're doing, but I find the threads where guys get an inflated sense of self because they choose to hunt whatever method they consider 'old school', to be somewhat at odds with trying to keep this sport alive.



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Originally Posted By: Stompy
I enjoy watching all the animals. I think what I do here is a selective harvest, we pull the deer out with feed and take the bucks and does that need to go. The feed is also good for managing the hogs. When I feel the need to hardcore hunt, I go on a Elk or Muley hunt..


X2 the hardcore comment. I've taken WT's in Texas for over 40 years and still love it but when I want to really hunt I go out west and chase Elk on public land. That type of hunting will test your skill and you will find out what your made of. As I said I still love to set over a feeder every now and again but I don't consider it hunting. Just my .02



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: Elkhunter49] #2656381 10/13/11 01:14 AM
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see the giant down thread, hunting in tx is done, we shoot deer and congradulate ourselves on what we have become, as long as we have campfires and beer or prayer we are happy, in 20 years it will all be hf or zoo hunts, its done boys


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symantics IMO. you hunt game and you harvest meat and/or the trophy.



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pretty so the hardest part of hunting is going to be working for the money so we can hunt, well its kinda like that now adays



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Deer hunting was never hard. The population of deer in Texas has grown exponentially due to people managing their land to cultivate deer, instead of killing them off for crop protection.

That, in my opinion, is the biggest reason it's so dang easy to kill a big buck these days. About 20 times as many of them around.


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You call it what you want. I'm in it for the kill. I enjoy all the stuff that goes with it but I'm there to take an animal. If you can't live with the blood and guts of it go play golf.



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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: passthru] #2656661 10/13/11 02:10 AM
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Maybe the native americans thought the "art" of hunting was lost when they first saw their first firearm?



Nah....they probably just looked at their bow and said, "To heck with this string and stick stuff. Give me that!"

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Re: Hunting vs Harvesting [Re: Curtis] #2656673 10/13/11 02:11 AM
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The Native Americans were trying to be as sporting as possible when they drove herds of buffalo off of cliffs.


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IDK, Im taking my 6 year old for a harvest hunt. We are basically waiting on a few axis does that we (I) know will come out eventually. Then he will shoot one. I guess what I am saying is that that is not a hunt for me, but in my sons eyes its the hunt of his life. So even if you "hunt" with a rifle or bow, I am sure that there is someone out there that says you are cheating. Id say at the end of the day its all a hravest for me, bc I dont waste animals.


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I think the indians hunted food plots and used blinds.


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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
I don't use corn in oklahoma but due use a hang on stand

scratch Deer won't eat corn in Oklahoma? peep



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I don't use corn in oklahoma but due use a hang on stand

scratch Deer won't eat corn in Oklahoma? peep


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After reading all the comments, I guess I am a Harvester. IMO not really true hunting sitting in a blind and waiting for the deer to come to the corn, but thats what we do. I know on my great gradfathers land that they were all "harvesters" because back in those old days no mattter what time of year it was, if they were out of meat, he would grab the 30-30, go out back and take a deer to put food on the table, they did what they had to do to provide, so I think he was a harvester as well. If you are in it for the meat, then I personally beleive that you are a harvester, if you are in it for the horns, then I think you are more of a hunter.


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Im very happy to be in a state that allows me the most room to do what i want with MY land and hunt it how i choose fit...i love the fact i can put a feeder out..sorry we dnt have standing crop fields around every turn...and food plots and blind setups and all this just adds to the experiance....


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