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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
[Re: BMD]
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01/15/11 03:24 AM
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KellyAsh
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Dude you have know idea what you are talking about. Put yourself in my shoes. You come asking about 2 rifles. A guy starts bashing one of the rifles, other folks ask him why he's bashing them so much and he responds with immature sophmoric attacks about how the one rifle is ugly and don't shoot for sh!t and are far inferior to the other rifle. When asked to provide evidence of them not being able to shoot and their inferiority, the guy responds with more immature garbage and can't seem to present any evidence of the one gun's being of any less quality. Evidence to validate the one rifle is brought to the table and this guy refuses to acknowledge these facts. Now you tell me, removing all people and names of this particular issue leaving it a general scenario, how much stock would YOU put into this guys word?
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 03:30 AM
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I always have hacked on savage rifles, dont like em, personal preferrence, I think all rifles will shoot when you buy them some maybe a little better than others, but buy 10 half of one will out shoot have the other, if you can read thru the bs, you will never hear me say a savage won't shoot, or any other rifle wont shoot, this is a little different situation than bs about how ugly a rifle is. If you would like to discuss it pm me.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 03:36 AM
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If any of you want to get rid of your Remington's, pm me and I will make sure they are properly disposed of. I can get rid of them for you.
I wonder why the military continues to use Remington 700's.
Again, if you need or want to get rid of one, I can take it off your hands and properly dispose of it. Oh yeah, guns just dont "go off".
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 03:40 AM
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If any of you want to get rid of your Remington's, pm me and I will make sure they are properly disposed of. I can get rid of them for you.
I wonder why the military continues to use Remington 700's.
Again, if you need or want to get rid of one, I can take it off your hands and properly dispose of it. Oh yeah, guns just dont "go off". Ay yi yi, here we go again! Read the freaking first post! The man's got no reason to lie!!!
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 03:54 AM
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Archer Anthony
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someone should delete this thread. if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say sh@t! the man is not bashing anything. He had the crap scared out of him and just wanted to inform everyone to BECAREFUL.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
[Re: Archer Anthony]
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01/15/11 04:17 AM
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New to this forum. Been shooting since I was about 6, 73 now. Back in the 80s there was a discharge of a 700 that cost Remington about a million for making a cripple out of a gentleman in the prime of his life, but the jury found the dealer not liable. I was in the large dealership one evening after hours. Many 700s in stock. I do not remember how many, but it was more than one that we were able to replicate a discharge in this manner. Pull the trigger while the rifle was on safety, release the trigger, then release the safety. Firing pin would drop-not every time but with some frequency on SOME BUT NOT ALL of the 700s. Ihave no experience with the newer trigger since I dumped all my 700s back then. I am sorry to hear about the new trigger as I almost bought a 700 VTR in .223 today. Be careful out there. There is no substitute for careful firearm handeling. I can tell you from experience that a Browning A-5, and probabally a lot of other makes and models, can discharge with the safety on if you drop it just right.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 04:20 AM
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missingAK
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Welcome to the forum Sir. And thank you for your insight.
"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened." Winston Churchill
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
[Re: missingAK]
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01/15/11 04:25 AM
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Welcome, and i will try it with every remington I own in that order to see if I can duplicate.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
[Re: missingAK]
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01/15/11 04:28 AM
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Is this issue affecting just the 700 ADL/BDL? Or is it the 700 series? I inherited my Grandfathers Remington 243. It is a model 788. Should I have the trigger replaced on it to be safe? Or is the problem strictly on the 700's?
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 04:38 AM
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I was in Ray's Sporting Goods (Dallas) at lunch today. He explained to me how this very thing happens. Says that lubricant or gunk gets in trigger, causing it to stick "back". So basically it's like your finger is on it. Saftey forward...BAM. Uh, I own several of these babies. And I have recently bought my son one. Going to re-think my obsession with the 700. Be safe everyone.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 05:09 AM
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back in the late 90's i had a 700 Remington in a 270 that went off in the deer stand ( box stand ) i sent the gun to remington and they replaced the trigger. i sold the gun patched hole.. i still shoot bolt action guns i just never close the bolt till i m ready to shoot...
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
[Re: Archer Anthony]
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01/15/11 07:17 AM
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someone should delete this thread. if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say sh@t! the man is not bashing anything. He had the crap scared out of him and just wanted to inform everyone to BECAREFUL. Amen. Thank you!
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 07:41 AM
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back in the late 90's i had a 700 Remington in a 270 that went off in the deer stand ( box stand ) i sent the gun to remington and they replaced the trigger. i sold the gun patched hole.. i still shoot bolt action guns i just never close the bolt till i m ready to shoot... I called my father in Houston from Kuwait and told him about the incident that happened to TxKiller with his Remington 700, and my father told me that it has happened to him also with his Remington 700 25/06 several years ago. He told me, over the phone, that he was in his deer stand and spotted a deer. As he was aiming, he took the rifle off of safety and the rifle fired. I was shocked to hear this from him yesterday!
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 12:28 PM
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colt45-90
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READ THE ARTICLE FROM REMINGTONS SITE!!! This is not a cut and dried thing. That 1 hour story was a one sided piece of crap overdrama production. All of the guns were tampered with. The main gun in the story was one that none of us would think about shooting. Rusted, dirty, altered.
Even the old style trigger from Remington was used by everybody and their dog with no problems. The trigger in your new gun is not that trigger?
Get the gun back to Remington and never, never, did I say never point the business end of any rifle, loaded or unloaded, safety or no safety, at anything you don't intend to kill. I have always had a saying, "Every gun is loaded." Good luck. I wouldn't belive anything that remington says, this has been a problem for many yrs.
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
[Re: colt45-90]
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01/15/11 12:34 PM
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Facts are facts. And do you believe we've been to the moon?
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 12:37 PM
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colt45-90
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Google "Remington 700 rifle problems" then Google "Savage rifle problems" or "Weatherby rifle problems" or even "Ruger rifle problems". The VAST majority of problems in the safety are are with Remingtons. The evidence is OVERWHELMINGLY stacked against Remington's quality. So much so that anyone that hold Remingtons as the "best" rifle out there don't know their arses from an anthill.
The rookie speaks, simple "then you don't buy one but personally you don't know your arse from anthill" didn't you say to unload the gun with taking the safty off, so who doesn't know there arse from an anthill
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 02:12 PM
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Just curious but has your trigger been worked on---lightened up from factory setting?
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 02:37 PM
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One of my best friends and I were discussing a gun he borrowed from me to duckhunt the other day. An 11-87, and since we were talking about remingtons he mentioned that last season that his rifle, 700 adl, went off as he was taking it off "safe". Scared the crap out of him at the time but, as he had never heard of the issue about the triggers he thought he must have done something to cause it. He has put that gun away after learning about the trigger and will have the trigger replaced before next season. I did not ask how old the gun was.
Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. Mark Twain
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 03:35 PM
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Txkiller
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Just curious but has your trigger been worked on---lightened up from factory setting? The trigger has never been toyed with and the rifle has been out of the stock once! Im really upset with this right now its such a great rig and never thought I would have an issue with it. Killer, does this rifle have the new X Mark pro trigger or the old style? Yes sir its the new model with the X mark adjustable trigger and is still set at 3 1/2 pounds from the factory.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 03:53 PM
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Some of you guys really need to chill out! I will say this again the rifle went off while I was releasing the safety left hand on the forearm and my right hand closed with my index finger and thumb working the safety. I am not bashing remington im just trying to inform folks that the rifle went off during the safety release, I was alone and the round went in a safe direction. I contacted remington yesterday and they are willing to replace trigger assembly with the same one I am not going that route and I will drop in an after market trigger. Again this thread was not to bash the company or to get a bunch "online experts" riled up! Share your stories all you want, ask your questions all you want but dont start bashing each other or trying to call me out nobody got hurt and thats all that matters to me im just wanting to spread the word so nobody else does!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 06:08 PM
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If any of you want to get rid of your Remington's, pm me and I will make sure they are properly disposed of. I can get rid of them for you.
I wonder why the military continues to use Remington 700's.
Again, if you need or want to get rid of one, I can take it off your hands and properly dispose of it. Oh yeah, guns just dont "go off". Ay yi yi, here we go again! Read the freaking first post! The man's got no reason to lie!!! Never called him a liar. Just simply stating that if anyone wants to get rid of their 700, I can take it off their hands. One thing I dont understand, and I have tried it in my 700's, is why the safety was being clicked off with both the thumb and index finger. Try it yourself. It is not hard to see how the index finger could "slip" onto the trigger, or maybe on the trigger guard. And it does not take much for a 3 1/2 pound trigger to go off. Again, not calling the guy a liar, just trying to figure it out. And CNBC is a liberal, gun hating, Obamacare supporting news station. I am just waiting for FOX news to come out with a contradictory show. Just wait, it is going to happen.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 06:24 PM
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Sometimes you want to put the safety into the fire position without an audible click, the 2 fingered nethod is easiest for that. With a closed fist as Txkiller described is a safe way to do that.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 06:28 PM
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Sometimes you want to put the safety into the fire position without an audible click, the 2 fingered nethod is easiest for that. With a closed fist as Txkiller described is a safe way to do that.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 06:44 PM
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Sometimes you want to put the safety into the fire position without an audible click, the 2 fingered nethod is easiest for that. With a closed fist as Txkiller described is a safe way to do that.
Thank you sir for explaining that.
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Re: Serious safety issue with the 700 last night.
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01/15/11 07:52 PM
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Heres a short video demonstrating what happen
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