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A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 12:28 PM
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OK, I'll be honest, most of this stems from the fact that it rained all weekend and i didn't get a chance to hunt, but i did get my fill of hunting shows.
Rant #1. Once again i saw a hunter leave a buck out over night. This ones really starting to bother me. As bad as i hate to say it, it seems there's more concern for the horns, than there is for the meat.
Rant#2. I'm sick and tired of seeing staged stalks and staged tracking of wounded animals. One show in particular had a hunter crawling on his belly, right into the lens of the camera. The other is shot from where the animals is laying, with the hunters intently looking at the ground and tracking the blood trail.
Rant #3. Whats with all the damn music in the back ground?
I have enough trouble trying to hear whats going on and what their saying, without having ZZ TOP jamming in the back ground. Those of you that have spent as much time behind a shotgun as i have, will immediately understand.
OK, i feel better now. With a little luck the weather will change for the better and I'll get to finally go out and fling a stick at a big one I've been watching.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 12:47 PM
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 12:53 PM
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After watching hunting shows all last year, to the point that my wife wanted to get rid of the TV, I have decided to lay off of them this year for two reasons. 1. I feel the same way you do. and 2. It just makes me want to go more and my wife is already sick of me saying I wish I was hunting right now.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 01:31 PM
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lol, ZZ top was last seasons music, this year it's fleetwood mac. i agree with you on everything but the leaving the deer out overnite, if you wound an animal and it won't die or you can't get to it to put another round in it, you will have to leave it. you don't want to push it onto another property. i'd rather have just the horns and no meat than no animal at all, especially knowing it would die anyway.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 01:48 PM
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The only show I really like watching anymore is Across America's The Outfitter w/ Colorado Buck. Show is usaully pretty good and he is a character. All the rest are a little too much and over-the-top.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 02:02 PM
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 03:29 PM
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what gets me is 5 min of hunting and 55 min of stupid commercials....good luck this weekend!!! I will be there
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 03:33 PM
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I go along completely with what Hwy_man said. Txtrophy85, not picking on you, but I am seeing way too many folks putting an unhealthy emphasis on finding the horns and not trying to recover the animal. If what I am saying offends you, I apologise to you, but, there should be no reason, in Texas, unless a lot of folks are just lying S.O.B.s about their deer always dropping in their tracks, for a deer to get away from someone setting in a stand and shooting from a bench rest. Maybe folks need to stop buying those big lensed light gathering scopes, and pushing that 30 minutes after sundown envelope, or just stop hunting a little earlier. I stop when the Sun. goes down, I don't hunt that last 30 minutes. There ain't no set of horns in my book, worth losing all of that meat, hoping that the horns can be found the next day. To me that is a real question of ethics. JMO
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 04:04 PM
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I must have been watching the same shows this weekend. I am in agreement as well.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 04:17 PM
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A little annoying that every buck bigger than a spike is "wow - a really great buck" on most of these shows. Management doesn't seem to be their thing.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 05:45 PM
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A little annoying that every buck bigger than a spike is "wow - a really great buck" on most of these shows. Management doesn't seem to be their thing.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 06:14 PM
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Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 07:01 PM
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I go along completely with what Hwy_man said. Txtrophy85, not picking on you, but I am seeing way too many folks putting an unhealthy emphasis on finding the horns and not trying to recover the animal. If what I am saying offends you, I apologise to you, but, there should be no reason, in Texas, unless a lot of folks are just lying S.O.B.s about their deer always dropping in their tracks, for a deer to get away from someone setting in a stand and shooting from a bench rest. Maybe folks need to stop buying those big lensed light gathering scopes, and pushing that 30 minutes after sundown envelope, or just stop hunting a little earlier. I stop when the Sun. goes down, I don't hunt that last 30 minutes. There ain't no set of horns in my book, worth losing all of that meat, hoping that the horns can be found the next day. To me that is a real question of ethics. JMO
No offense taken. i will stand up and and tell everyone that hunts that i am a trophy hunter. i hunt animals for their head gear(and the joy and excitment that i get from hunting). that said, i do eat alot of deer meat. i take seveal does each year and process a few and give the rest away. I think leaving a deer out overnite( whether its a doe, spike or 160 class monster) is a last resort. i personally would go back to camp, get my shotgun w/buckshot, spotlight and knife, and go get my deer. its something that i would hate to do, and have not had to do yet. i also agree that hunters take too marginal of shots sometimes. most of my deer drop in their tracks, and the ones that have ran did't make it too far. i was just saying that in a situation where their is greater than 50% chance that i will not be in a position to kill an animal that i have wounded, i will leave it overnite and get it in the morning. but size of the horns or antlers should never compromise ones ethics
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 07:40 PM
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Hey HWY,
I agree with you man. Too much rock music, (and I like ZZ Top and Fleetwood Mac both, just not on a hunting show), and too many canned stalks! I gave them up last season. I just reload, or find something to do in the shop. Those shows dont seem to have anything to do with the type of hunting that I do, or have seen. Some of those guys have laundry CREASES in their camo. When was the last time you starched and ironed YOUR camo? And there is usually an ad or ads for the place that they are hunting. The hunts at those places cost about a "bazillion" dollars. Not my style or price range, so I dont watch em any more.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 08:11 PM
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And there is usually an ad or ads for the place that they are hunting. The hunts at those places cost about a "bazillion" dollars. Not my style or price range, so I don't watch em any more.
That part doesn't really bother, it cost money to produce those shows and adds are where that revenue comes from. It's the actual production it's self that gets my goat. Not all these shows are like that, when it comes to staging clips. Jim Shockey does some great shows, as do Alan and Keith Warren, Jim Zumbo, Jack Brittingham. There's just a few out there that really don't get it. Sure they get to hunt on some great places, but those places also get some great advertising out of it. These hunts ain't cheap, but there always seems to be a waiting list, to hunt on them.
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Not my style or price range, so I don't watch em any more.
Not so much mine either, but i seem to watch them every chance i get. Hunting with Jim Shockey up in the Yukon territory for Moose, would be a dream hunt. But due to his show I've got to see allot of people fulfill there dreams.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/16/06 09:19 PM
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DIDO... HWY_MAN, that fake suprise look on the face when they walk up to the cam and the game, that kills me. I'm going to start buying more hunting DVD's, these have alot less talking and alot more action.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/17/06 12:18 AM
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you know, thats why I like Tred Barta. He isnt trying to sell me anything, he isnt faking it, and he even has shows where he comes up empty handed. So far, Tred is the only one who does not appear to be a shill for a product or a ranch. And if anyone saw Tred try and stick a hog in south texas you know what I mean, that was not staged and tred acting like a wuss sure made me feel like a badboy
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/17/06 12:34 AM
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I was hunting all weekend, so i wouldn't know Am I rubbing it in a little or what??? All kidding aside it is much hype on most of those shows. Save the drama for your mama
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/17/06 05:25 AM
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I could do without the music too but as far as staged stalks... You know these guys go out with a camera man, 75 pounds of camera gear,batteries and tripods, a guide, then whoever else tags along. A stalk is almost impossible. So what they do a lot of times is to perform the hunt and try to re-inact it as best they can. If they didn't, they wouldn't have any footage. It would be them sneaking away, then the next scene would be showing the trophy - not very entertaining. These hunters are not very good actors so the "fakeness" of it really shows. If you will notice on a lot of shows, they provide shooter firing, then impact footage. How do you think they did that with one camera? They killed the deer, then recorded the hunter shooting a stump and edited it all together in the studio.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/17/06 12:37 PM
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A screaming guitar and pounding drums is not what I want to hear during a hunting show. There are a few that I do like to watch, as far as I can tell Eastlands hunting journal is pretty good as is Realtree's road trips. They joke around in camp pretty much like we do. I've never left a deer out over night, especially here. My uncle did one time and after the hogs were done with it, he just had a couple of hairs left. I hit a deer with my 270 or 300 chances are it hasn't gone far and if I can't locate it, I go to camp and get help and I've yet to lose one (knock on wood).
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/17/06 01:04 PM
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I'm with you HWY_MAN. If one pops up while I'm flip'n thru the channels I just keep flip'n. Well, except for Tred. I do like to see what that yahoo is up to.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/17/06 06:44 PM
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Yup I had the rain as well, but I've already given up on the noise they call hunting shows. Once in a while you can come across one that's not playing the noise, and could be real.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/17/06 06:53 PM
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I agree with you guys on this stuff but the thing i dont like is the shows try to pass the hosts off as great hunters when their not.These guys just get to hunt in great places that 99 percent of us cant afford. They also have their stands set up for them or by the landowner who does all their scouting. Thats not my idea of a great hunter or what hunting realy is about" The only part i enjoy is seeing what whitetails can be if left to get old.
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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10/17/06 10:24 PM
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Bottom line that the hunting shows are just like the fishing shows. Put some guy out there and make it look easy. For what? To sell something, that's for what. No down, no payments for a kazillion months at no interest. No different than cars or trucks or furniture or macburgers. It's all hype, untrue, made up adventure for the couch potato. Oh, oh, I'm talking about myself now. But I'm not knocking the guys that can afford it. They worked hard for the chance to hunt with the big boys. skookumchuck
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Re: A little rant about hunting shows.
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OK, I'll be honest, most of this stems from the fact that it rained all weekend and i didn't get a chance to hunt, but i did get my fill of hunting shows.
Rant #1. Once again i saw a hunter leave a buck out over night. This ones really starting to bother me. As bad as i hate to say it, it seems there's more concern for the horns, than there is for the meat.
Rant#2. I'm sick and tired of seeing staged stalks and staged tracking of wounded animals. One show in particular had a hunter crawling on his belly, right into the lens of the camera. The other is shot from where the animals is laying, with the hunters intently looking at the ground and tracking the blood trail.
Rant #3. Whats with all the damn music in the back ground?
I have enough trouble trying to hear whats going on and what their saying, without having ZZ TOP jamming in the back ground. Those of you that have spent as much time behind a shotgun as i have, will immediately understand.
OK, i feel better now. With a little luck the weather will change for the better and I'll get to finally go out and fling a stick at a big one I've been watching. So true...
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