What's the first step for a society to get to the point where it looks like that? Legalized Marijuana?

Laws and mores that have stood the test of thousands of years of human experience are not a mistake. . . . . . .

We have a segment of the population that thinks they are smarter than many generations of clear thinking, intelligent people.

They are fools.

I'm 100% behind personal freedom. Want to do drugs, do them. Don't want to wear a seat belt, don't. But that only works if it comes with 100% personal responsibility which we don't have and will never get to. You want to do drugs and get too messed up to work? Great, then you starve to death on the street. If you have both, the problem will work itself out pretty quickly. Only granting the freedom without the responsibility means the problem will just linger on forever.

Trying to have a functional life while using a controlled substance is like trying to be just little bit pregnant.

I don’t think you can put marijuana in the same class as opiates, amphetamines, and these other drugs in these apocalyptic videos. It does not bear the same type of fruit. It is only a “gateway drug” in the sense that the same people that supplied it in the past also supplied other illegal substances.

Alcohol is ten times as bad as marijuana. I grew up around a bunch of potheads and bikers, I will die on this hill. Nobody beats their woman after smoking a joint. They don’t even fight. “I will kick his MF @&$ tomorrow”.

Blackout drunk, a man is about as unpredictable as someone using any other substance.

This is just not true about MJ and not ever wanting to beat someone, or being all mellow and not caring about anything. And it is clearly a gateway drug for many that turns into other drug use.

Look up marijuana psychosis and you will see not only is it on the rise, but it is a serious problem. The current strains with high THC content and other forms like edibles and such things are creating a situation people from the 60's and 70's rarely if ever saw. MJ is a different animal these days

simple google search shows how real marijuana psychosis is and how it is also related to and increase in psychotic disease processes in people who smoke it.

google: marijuana psychosis

If I have ever smoked is not relevant to the discussion of MJ psychosis.

No I have not, and I don't care how many joints anyone HAS smoked. MJ psychosis is a real thing, and can happen.

I am familiar with marijuana psychosis among other issues. Paranoid disorders induced by excessive cannabis abuse. Also, cirrhosis of the liver from alcohol abuse. None of our controlled substances are harmless. But it still does not compare to alcohol.

For starters, alcohol is one of only two substances that the withdrawals can kill you. I have had elderly relatives in the hospital literally prescribed whiskey to keep them alive.

There is a point of diminished or even no returns with regards to smoking pot. Alcohol, you drink more it effects you more until you pass out, die, or transform into a literal monster.

I don’t think you can put marijuana in the same class as opiates, amphetamines, and these other drugs in these apocalyptic videos. It does not bear the same type of fruit. It is only a “gateway drug” in the sense that the same people that supplied it in the past also supplied other illegal substances.

Alcohol is ten times as bad as marijuana. I grew up around a bunch of potheads and bikers, I will die on this hill. Nobody beats their woman after smoking a joint. They don’t even fight. “I will kick his MF @&$ tomorrow”.

Blackout drunk, a man is about as unpredictable as someone using any other substance.

That's what I though.

I am glad to have met your expectations. Does your question have any relevance to my comments or the reality of MJ psychosis?

Gotta disagree 10 Guage. I consider them almost equal besides Marijuana being Illegal. Todays kids will get high and rob you, do a drive by or just fight you for fun. I have known many kids kill someone while high.

Laws and mores that have stood the test of thousands of years of human experience are not a mistake.
We have a segment of the population that thinks they are smarter than many generations of clear thinking, intelligent people.

They are fools.

Hey, let’s argue about which drugs are okay and which ones are not, based on arbitrary lines we draw in the sand based upon our own individual preferences, instead of arguing about freedom and actual crimes and why what we do in our own space and time is none of the government’s business. Hell no. We don’t want to have that discussion. We’d rather have a bunch of crooked politicians make that decision for us. We’d rather have them tell us what we can and can’t do. We’d rather vote based on what suits us, according to our wants, as opposed to voting for what keeps us free.

That is a really good point. Doesn’t change the fact that everywhere drugs have been decriminalized, there is a region that looks like a post-apocalyptic themed movie that literally spreads like a malignant tumor. I think it is on purpose, brought to you by the same tyrannical mf’s that are counting on crime to attempt to justify their tyrannical ideas to the masses.

When I drink I feel horrible the next day. If a eat a gummie then I feel perfectly normal the next day. Judge how you will.

The hardest part for me, who enjoys an occasional puff, is being lectured by people that consume alcohol, adderal, xanax, ambien, ozempic, etc. on a daily basis.

Those drugs are thermonuclear weapons compared to weed (.177 caliber pellet gun).

This kind of stuff is exactly the problem, people assume just because something does or doesn't affect themselves it must hold true for everyone else or be better or worse than something else.

The reality of it is, everything we ingest can be harmful or cause problems for any of us. For some, a single drink of alcohol is all it takes to go on a all-day binge and be a wicked person in the process, For some, they can be totally drunk off their arse and not have a bit of problem and have no hang over the next day. Anecdotal evidence of how something affects you or your loved ones is not the reason we say "drugs are bad" or "alcohol is bad" or "smoking is bad" or vaping is bad" or "taking prescription drugs not according to directions is bad"....these things are bad because in SOME people, they cause significant personal and societal issues. The fact these things do not cause trouble for all people DOES NOT MATTER. I have seen people shot in the head and live, and some people shot in the arm die. Does that mean getting shot isn't bad just because one person lived and only one died? Switch out the gun shot for knife stab, and the same thought process occurs. We know some things are bad and therefore we say these things you can not do, no matter how much you might want to.

We need to get past the idea that "I do X all the time and am just fine, so it must not be that bad"

You aren't everyone, and everyone isn't you. You want a first hand look at the OP premise, go to Portland Oregon, go to any inner city homeless camp, go to any ER on any given day and you will see what happens to people who have no control over what they want to do in their private lives.

Until we get tot he society where personal responsibility is actually owned 100% by the person, we have to put our foot down somewhere and say enough is enough. The line needs to be drawn somewhere. And I still solidly stand behind the line that illicit drug use needs to be illegal. The experiment has shown legalizing drug use DOES NOT work.

Anyone can abuse a lot of "drugs" and screw up your health. Food is America's current "drug" of choice. The sad part. Most fat/overweight people don't care.

Any drug can can be used responsibly or irresponsibly. Alcohol, we have society drinker and the drunk. Same goes for weed. Thousands if not millions are the casual weekend user, the occasional user that functions as good or better than the person who has the occasional beer or hard drink after work.

Prescription drugs, same issue, some abuse them most use them as prescribed.

When I drink I feel horrible the next day. If a eat a gummie then I feel perfectly normal the next day. Judge how you will.

You’re not repairing whatever the problem is with either one of those. Treating a symptom of a condition with a street drug is a dirty bandage at best.

You’re not repairing whatever the problem is with either one of those. Treating a symptom of a condition with a street drug is a dirty bandage at best.

He never said he was treating a problem and big pharma are the biggest drug dealers on the planet.

People who have to drink or take drugs, have a problem. They are masking the symptoms of whatever it is. I would have thought someone from White Settlement would have less of a tolerance for such behavior. Your city has been ravaged by the use of methamphetamine. It has one of the highest concentrations of Aryan Circle and Aryan Brotherhood Of Texas gang members in the whole country. Drugs brought them there.

That’s hilarious. I specialized in dealing with all the gang activity in the area and documented the locations of them. White Settlement is the hub of aryan gang activity for Tarrant County. The methamphetamine use there is so prevalent the majority of meth investigations in north, central and west FW would all have a nexus to White Settlement. You can’t be that naive and live there.

and I've lived here for 28 years and in the area for 41 so I'm in a far better position to make that statement IMO. Never had an issue. you have an opinion, nothing more. Good day.

Actually it’s not an opinion, they are indisputable facts. A ride in with the evening shift beat officer would be beneficial. He or she wouldn’t have the specialized knowledge and experience that I have, but there’s no way they could be completely oblivious to the criminal element in the area either.

Your worked in the gang and organized crime unit during the last part of your career right?

I've heard that many regular Joe Civilians would be surprised at what goes on around them.

The travelers left a few years ago and didn't come back. used to see them all the time. Im also far from clueless. the area north of 30 on las vegas trail is night and day worse than white settlement. but everyone can think what they want.

'Had to look up "Irish Travelers", but I learned something today!

Your worked in the gang and organized crime unit during the last part of your career right?

I've heard that many regular Joe Civilians would be surprised at what goes on around them.

to be sure they are some nasty people. they used to live out by benbrook lake in the 80's before they all moved to the trailer parks in town. every store in town hate them. biggest scammers alive. If some are still there, you don't see them anymore. good riddance.

I tried to watch the video. I quit when the creator paused for his endorsement/infomercial for a personal injury attorney firm.

Watched this dude shoot up in broad daylight at a gas station then started screaming!!! Trash

Parasitic germ.

They sound like cedar choppers that were up in the hills west of Austin. They were Scots. Dad told me about them. He was born in Austin in 1918. Whenever he came across a particularly nasty example of PWT you could hear him mutter under his breath "cedar chopper." His mother had a lot of Scottish blood in her, but he probably didn't know it.

He needs to be run out of town.

Grew up in that part of the world.

Cedar choppers... Dang, yall are a tough crowd. Grew up in that part of the world.
Is there no way theres not a single one of them thats just a decent blue collar worker????

Can we add fentanyl and some of the other crap prescribed by Dr. and big pharma to this enlightened discussion!!

In Austin in the 1920s and 30s?

Free, you mighta started off as a blue collar guy, but you worked quickly to the white collar crowd….

Gotcha gotcha.

I might need to become a ditch digger here soon….not sure i could do much cedar chopping, but i know how to dig.