It’s a toss up between the A5 and the Superposed.

Jmac,
I grew up watching my dad hunt w his favorite Ithaca 37 16 g, guess I didnt have a choice but to like them, when i got old enough i started using his Ithaca 16g, wasnt a very good shot w it then but dang it felt good

I added a recoil pad to my 16 g and added a little weight in the buttstock, sure helped the bruises when shooting BOSS shells for ducks/geese

And the half generation before complained about the ballistics and power of the .30 Carbine.



Topic is about which is overrated not which is the gayest. That being said, the .30-30 Winchester, usually from a lever action, has likely killed the most game in the history of this country. Doesn't sound like the definition of overrated.

I think it deserves most of the "hype" it gets. It's revolutionary for the shooting world to have a round that new shooters can go buy a factory $400 rifle and factory ammo available at any sporting goods store and be capable of hitting small targets at 800-1000 yards easily. Previously, the closest thing the shooting world had was probably 308 with 168 FGMM, which was inferior both ballistically and accuracy-wise.

Lots of "hunters" don't care, which is why a forum like this doesn't seem it particularly relevant, but hunters now make up a minority of the shooting world. The majority of shooters are primarily recreational shooters who might hunt some or might not, but the 6.5cm is a game changer for the ability of folks like me to get young shooters going easily and painlessly. Absolute game changer

Yeah, looks like they were 2 for 3 on those opinions

And it does what different then the 120 year old 6.5x55mm does ?

Nothing if you hand load a 6.5x55. He is taking about factory ammo and he is correct. I have two 6.5x55s and zero 6.5 Creedmoors but I get his point. You also have unlimited choices of factory Creedmoor rifles and almost none in 6.5x55.

Fits in a short action. Allows long, high BC bullets to be seated farther out. Has a sharper shoulder. Is it better than the sweede? Marginally. And you could easily argue the other way around if case capacity was your deal. If I already had a Sweede, would I buy a creedmoor? Absolutely not.

Sells new rifles, ammo, and reloading equipment/components.

Creedmoor Derangement Syndrome is alive and well........

To be in the over rated category a firearm needs to be good enough to be highly thought of. 6.5 creedmoor is definitely that. Not just good. It is very good. It is touted as revolutionary by many. In that respect it is overrated. It does what the 6.5 x 55 has been doing for 120 years.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 6.5x55 on any sales rack, but I’ve only been around for 30% of its lifetime…6.5CM rifles probably outnumber any rifle chambering on any rack with the exception modern sporting rifles/5.56

Actually it is revolutionary, but not from the ballistics standpoint. It got a whole lot of people into the firearms' game that would likely have never been there. Those people are now on your side when it comes time to vote. From that aspect, it's incalculably under-rated.

The wussification of America. Used to be a country of men, now people are shooting limp wrist 9 mm and 6.5 cm 🤣🤣

I’m not championing the round, I’ve yet to shoot 6.5CM, but based on its overlap with other rifles I have, I wouldn’t call it a wussy round. I still have a few mag chamberings, they just cost a lot to shoot. The 6.5 popularity makes rounds easier to get and less sting at the register for us non reloaders.

This speaks to its popularity and not if it is worthy of that popularity. Worthiness or overrated would always depend on whatever measurement system one wants to apply.

^^^Everyone should be able to agree on this!!!!!!! If that is the yardstick we "rate" firearms by then it is truly under rated.

JG, Im not sure if thats intended as a compliment but Ill take it. I like old stuff as long as it works. I think your work on that rifle is about the only thing its ever had done to it.

It's a compliment.

It's had a hand load made for it a long time ago. I remember how well it shot.

I think that is very well said. The ballistics are not magical but the combination of relatively light recoil and a very large selection of Match/Target factory loads along with ample marketing certainly has helped bring peopling into the sport.

Thought this was an "overrated firearm" thread, not an "overrated rifle round" thread???

But then you would miss out on all his "wisdom".

That water bucket getting heavy?

Do I need to remind you of why you lie about me every time you post? It started when you got butt hurt when I corrected you and your hero about the application of loctite on scope rings, resulting in over tightening. You were both wrong. I wasn't rude about it at all, just having a conversation and you and your hero couldn't stand it. Look up the thread. That lead me to me asking you about your qualifications and I disagreed with your claim of being an engineer.

Other than not knowing that custom barrels are marked in the same way machine tolerances are sometimes called out, what have I been wrong about?

I liked you better when you once told me that you had a lot of respect for me. The reason I never called you out for the lie you post about me? I love it when someone asks me what that is all about. It gives me the opportunity to tell them that you're a waterboy for another member of this forum and you're not an engineer as you claim to be, that you were wrong on an issue, got hurt over it and think you're friends with someone that you had to pay a lot of money to get his friendship button. So, leave me in your signature line as it is. It costs someone business every time I get asked about it.

It's like I told your hero that you paid all the money to so that you could be his friend; "don't start none, there won't be none". Bring it on, someone pushes me, I hit back. Been that way since 1st grade

I am really proud of the way Daddy raised me.