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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 04:42 AM
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 04:57 AM
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 12:24 PM
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I agree on commas, but give me an example where apostrophes change the meaning. Probably out there but I can’t think of it. You need an apostrophe in your sig line. Just saying.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 12:40 PM
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This example appears to be missing the word "for" that should come after the word "cooking", not sure how or where a comma would help in that sentence.
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Re: “Literally”…
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This example appears to be missing the word "for" that should come after the word "cooking", not sure how or where a comma would help in that sentence. The way it is says the person likes cooking those people and animals. With commas, the meaning changes. "I like cooking, my family, and my friends" looks a little different. If you start talking about apostrophes then we may be here awhile. That is very different than like and literally which would be considered wasted or unneeded words. Leaving out apostrophes simply saves time while typing with very little chance for confusion of intended meaning. Really? "Its" is a real word and so is "it's" but they don't mean the same things.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 01:15 PM
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This example appears to be missing the word "for" that should come after the word "cooking", not sure how or where a comma would help in that sentence. The way it is says the person likes cooking those people and animals. With commas, the meaning changes. "I like cooking, my family, and my friends" looks a little different. If you start talking about apostrophes then we may be here awhile. That is very different than like and literally which would be considered wasted or unneeded words. Leaving out apostrophes simply saves time while typing with very little chance for confusion of intended meaning. Really? "Its" is a real word and so is "it's" but they don't mean the same things. Why would you have a comma after the word "family" when the word "and" follows it? This is just a curiosity question.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 01:18 PM
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Stub, I was taught that a comma goes there, even if it seems unnecessary. This is done when listing more than two items. However, it’s my understanding that has changed and it is acceptable to omit the comma, now.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 01:23 PM
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Stub, I was taught that a comma goes there, even if it seems unnecessary. This is done when listing more than two items. However, it’s my understanding that has changed and it is acceptable to omit the comma, now. Oh K den
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 01:47 PM
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Re: “Literally”…
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Im still waiting for an example sentence where the lack of an apostrophe changes the meaning of the sentence. Gasguzz, you're up..... As I said before, there may be an example but I cant think of one. I usually leave off apostrophes to save time cause I dont think it confuses my meaning. If I use them it probably means Im worried about yall giving me a hard time. I know that commas can matter so I try to use them but I definitely do not always know the proper use of commas.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 06:06 PM
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J, I hate when folks start of a sentence with "So", makes no sense to me. Maybe we need to go back to caffeinated...Down will Sanka!!
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/19/24 07:15 PM
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Would you prefer, “Here’s the deal,” or “In this day and age?”
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Re: “Literally”…
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J, I hate when folks start of a sentence with "So", makes no sense to me. Maybe we need to go back to caffeinated...Down will Sanka!! Who is Sanka and what "will" they go down on
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/20/24 03:16 AM
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I'm surprised Creekrunner hasn't showed, I thought he was the local grammar Nazi.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/20/24 03:14 PM
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Let's put a period at the end of that sentence, shall we?
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Re: “Literally”…
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Let's put a period at the end of that sentence, shall we?
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/23/24 09:49 PM
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Im still waiting for an example sentence where the lack of an apostrophe changes the meaning of the sentence. Gasguzz, you're up..... As I said before, there may be an example but I cant think of one. I usually leave off apostrophes to save time cause I dont think it confuses my meaning. If I use them it probably means Im worried about yall giving me a hard time. I know that commas can matter so I try to use them but I definitely do not always know the proper use of commas. RR's outlaw biking thread provided the answer to your question:
Do you also load and unload your gear in the boat ramp because it is legal to do so?
Gear? I have a bassboat, all my gear is in the boat and stays in the boat. All I have to at a ramp, is remove the motor toter and then back the boat up into the water. We’ll be careful who’s buttons you push Ranger. Bicycle vs. automobile is a mighty dangerous game of chicken.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/23/24 11:23 PM
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Let's put a period at the end of that sentence, shall we? I’m not finished
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/23/24 11:27 PM
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Let's put a period at the end of that sentence, shall we? I’m not finished Now we are.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/24/24 12:21 AM
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Let's put a period at the end of that sentence, shall we? I’m not finished When you’re not finished you…..
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/24/24 01:26 AM
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This thread kept me amused during a couple different toilet trips today but I think I’m done now.!.
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/24/24 11:25 AM
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Why would you have a comma after the word "family" when the word "and" follows it? This is just a curiosity question. The original reason is that a list can have two meanings with and without the last comma, especially when you add the possibility of a singular item defined by the structure "noun and noun" (like beans and rice is a thing not two things when used a certain way). Proper traditional English grammar calls for the commas as I wrote them. My Dad and I actually had a conversation about this the other day as he was taught the same as I. He graduated from High School in 1965 in a class of 13. I did so in 1993 in a class of 472 and we were taught the same way. That last comma is now considered extraneous although both methods are considered "correct". Im still waiting for an example sentence where the lack of an apostrophe changes the meaning of the sentence. Gasguzz, you're up..... Don't forget to dot all your is. Don't forget to dot all your i's. I guess the first one doesn't make any sense. Anyway, when an apostrophe is left out, the word often becomes a different (incorrect) word (with exception to some contractions) and that to me is enough. If you were to write "don't forget to dot all your is" when you meant "i's", I would worry about you a little. Why is any other apostrophe any less important? Oh, I got one... Hell wait for you!
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Re: “Literally”…
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Why would you have a comma after the word "family" when the word "and" follows it? This is just a curiosity question. The original reason is that a list can have two meanings with and without the last comma, especially when you add the possibility of a singular item defined by the structure "noun and noun" (like beans and rice is a thing not two things when used a certain way). Proper traditional English grammar calls for the commas as I wrote them. My Dad and I actually had a conversation about this the other day as he was taught the same as I. He graduated from High School in 1965 in a class of 13. I did so in 1993 in a class of 472 and we were taught the same way. That last comma is now considered extraneous although both methods are considered "correct". Im still waiting for an example sentence where the lack of an apostrophe changes the meaning of the sentence. Gasguzz, you're up..... Don't forget to dot all your is. Don't forget to dot all your i's. I guess the first one doesn't make any sense. Anyway, when an apostrophe is left out, the word often becomes a different (incorrect) word (with exception to some contractions) and that to me is enough. If you were to write "don't forget to dot all your is" when you meant "i's", I would worry about you a little. Why is any other apostrophe any less important? Oh, I got one... Hell wait for you! Thanks, Gasguzz. You are a wizz kid on this stuff, no doubt. I think you had to work really hard on the "I" dotting example. Im(I'm) keeping in mind that I drove my old hunting truck through your neck of the woods the other day and was hoping I was your friend in case I broke down. I think there are so many times that an apostrophe is called for but not really needed that I will save the time and just wait for the few times its(it's) needed and use them then. Its(it's) a little weird I take this stance since in most all cases in life I am a stickler for doing things the "right way" just on principal, even it it doesnt really matter. For some reason typing proper grammar is a subconscious exception I make and just dont(don't) worry about(if it saves time).
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Re: “Literally”…
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02/25/24 03:03 AM
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I like, literally don’t know what to think about this.
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Re: “Literally”…
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I like, literally don’t know what to think about this. Toss in a “bro,” and you’ve got it figured out.
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