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Re: KC Super Bowl Parade Shooting [Re: Bar-D] #9006035 02/15/24 04:52 PM
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Re: KC Super Bowl Parade Shooting [Re: Guy] #9006047 02/15/24 05:19 PM
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Anyone speculate about the motive?

Looks like no one knows yet. With 11 children shot including a 6 yr old, it sure makes you wonder unless a shootout started over an argument and they were collateral damage. At this point I’m left with just crazy F’n people.

The Washington Post reports that the shooting stemmed from a dispute among 3 people, 2 of which were juveniles. So at least 2, if not 3, gangbangers. One woman killed, 22 injured. Half of the injured are younger than 16. Here's a victim's account:

"Shooting survivor Jacob Gooch Sr., who was shot in the ankle, told CBS Thursday he overheard an altercation prior to the shooting, in which a girl told someone else, “Don’t do it, not here, this is stupid.”

Gooch – who said his wife and son were also shot – told “CBS Mornings” his wife and daughter then saw someone draw a gun.

“My daughter said that some lady was, like, holding him back,” Gooch said, “and people had started backing up and then he pulled it out and just started shooting and spinning in a circle.”"

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I guarantee if they executed them (insert your preferred method) today at 6pm on the news there would be less of these happening.

Our government and politicians don't want this to stop or they would stop it...sadly these events are HUGE fundraising opportunities for both sides. Sickening!


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Don't let your ears hear what your eyes didn't see, and don't let your mouth say what your heart doesn't feel
Re: KC Super Bowl Parade Shooting [Re: Judd] #9006096 02/15/24 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd
I guarantee if they executed them (insert your preferred method) today at 6pm on the news there would be less of these happening.

Our government and politicians don't want this to stop or they would stop it...sadly these events are HUGE fundraising opportunities for both sides. Sickening!

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Re: KC Super Bowl Parade Shooting [Re: Judd] #9006100 02/15/24 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Judd
I guarantee if they executed them (insert your preferred method) today at 6pm on the news there would be less of these happening.

Our government and politicians don't want this to stop or they would stop it...sadly these events are HUGE fundraising opportunities for both sides. Sickening!


Wouldn't change the groups behavior one iota but it will change the behavior of the one they kill.

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I’ve interviewed thousands of gang members. They don’t expect to live past age.25 so consequences aren’t much of a concern for them.

Re: KC Super Bowl Parade Shooting [Re: Bar-D] #9006184 02/15/24 09:58 PM
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Three guys tackled him and held him on ground until police got there.


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Re: KC Super Bowl Parade Shooting [Re: Bar-D] #9006232 02/15/24 11:39 PM
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I don’t keep up with AR stuff very much since retirement, but unless something changed, I believe this is an AOW… [Linked Image]

Re: KC Super Bowl Parade Shooting [Re: ntxtrapper] #9006236 02/15/24 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
I don’t keep up with AR stuff very much since retirement, but unless something changed, I believe this is an AOW… [Linked Image]

Yep AOW for sure. People are pretty oblivious to these laws. I’ve seen several on here and ARCOM post AR pistols for sell with a VFG attached to the rifle.


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What’s AOW?

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
What’s AOW?

X2. What is the significance?

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Any Other Weapon. Basically same process to get an SBR through ATF except it only costs $5 for tax stamp same as short barreled shotguns.

Any AR pistol with vertical forward grip attached is considered an AOW and requires tax stamp.


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What’s AOW?


Any Other Weapon. Must have a tax stamp which I can guarantee you the dirtbag didn't have. Due to the notoriety of the offense, it should be accepted in federal court.

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Any Other Weapon. Basically same process to get an SBR through ATF except it only costs $5 for tax stamp same as short barreled shotguns.

Any AR pistol with vertical forward grip attached is considered an AOW and requires tax stamp.

So it is against the law to carry is the significance?

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Any Other Weapon. Basically same process to get an SBR through ATF except it only costs $5 for tax stamp same as short barreled shotguns.

Any AR pistol with vertical forward grip attached is considered an AOW and requires tax stamp.

So it is against the law to carry is the significance?


Fed charge. BOP. No parole. Send him to a BOP in Alaska and see how it works out for him.

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Any Other Weapon. Basically same process to get an SBR through ATF except it only costs $5 for tax stamp same as short barreled shotguns.

Any AR pistol with vertical forward grip attached is considered an AOW and requires tax stamp.


Wow, I didn't know that. So, I assume that doesn't apply to 16 inch carbines? I could see thousands of folks breaking that law and not even know it.


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So now they are saying this started with 2 juveniles in dispute. So how do 22 bystanders get shot and the 2 juveniles don’t get shot?

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Originally Posted by KRoyal
Any Other Weapon. Basically same process to get an SBR through ATF except it only costs $5 for tax stamp same as short barreled shotguns.

Any AR pistol with vertical forward grip attached is considered an AOW and requires tax stamp.

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What’s AOW?


Any Other Weapon. Must have a tax stamp which I can guarantee you the dirtbag didn't have. Due to the notoriety of the offense, it should be accepted in federal court.


Never heard of that. Thank y’all for informing me.

Someone should pass some laws on these AOW’s and make some hoops to jump through so people don’t use them to kill other people.

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
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Any Other Weapon. Basically same process to get an SBR through ATF except it only costs $5 for tax stamp same as short barreled shotguns.

Any AR pistol with vertical forward grip attached is considered an AOW and requires tax stamp.

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What’s AOW?


Any Other Weapon. Must have a tax stamp which I can guarantee you the dirtbag didn't have. Due to the notoriety of the offense, it should be accepted in federal court.


Never heard of that. Thank y’all for informing me.

Someone should pass some laws on these AOW’s and make some hoops to jump through so people don’t use them to kill other people.


I don't agree with the whole AOW thing, but it's there, so might as well use it on a POS like this guy.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
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Any Other Weapon. Basically same process to get an SBR through ATF except it only costs $5 for tax stamp same as short barreled shotguns.

Any AR pistol with vertical forward grip attached is considered an AOW and requires tax stamp.

So it is against the law to carry is the significance?


Fed charge. BOP. No parole. Send him to a BOP in Alaska and see how it works out for him.

Yep, as Brown Bear food.


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Originally Posted by Judd
I guarantee if they executed them (insert your preferred method) today at 6pm on the news there would be less of these happening.

Our government and politicians don't want this to stop or they would stop it...sadly these events are HUGE fundraising opportunities for both sides. Sickening!

This^^^X1000

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
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Any Other Weapon. Basically same process to get an SBR through ATF except it only costs $5 for tax stamp same as short barreled shotguns.

Any AR pistol with vertical forward grip attached is considered an AOW and requires tax stamp.

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What’s AOW?


Any Other Weapon. Must have a tax stamp which I can guarantee you the dirtbag didn't have. Due to the notoriety of the offense, it should be accepted in federal court.


Never heard of that. Thank y’all for informing me.

Someone should pass some laws on these AOW’s and make some hoops to jump through so people don’t use them to kill other people.


I don't agree with the whole AOW thing, but it's there, so might as well use it on a POS like this guy.


Yeah, sure. I get that and agree. Use every single thing you can to bury the turd.

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These are juveniles according to the news clip I saw. No fed time

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