Same with my wife's new Toyota.

Exactly - especially if wife and grandkids were traveling

Sounds like it is a time for a new car.

That's insane. The dealers have ZERO to do with the manufacturer building a car with no spare.

And with keys well over $200 each plus programming, make sure you know what kind of deal you're getting.

It is a new car - just bought last year

Bought a F150 that was suppose to come with a spare tire lock. A year later I went to drop the spare to check pressure and no lock. Went to the dealership and of course the first person to approach was a sales dude. I explained it to him. His reaction was "it has been a year and just now noticing". As I was explaining to him that I had not had a need to drop the spare the service manager heard the conversation. He said pull it around and we will put one on for you.

Now we have to make sure new vehicles come with a spare tire, jack, and lug wrench

Got my wife a new car last year guess I better check if it came with a spare.

Not only that, but you need to ensure it's the correct lug wrench. Just had a recall performed on my 2023 Super Duty to replace mine with one that actually fit the lugs.

"Look for that union label..."

OP, is your new vehicle fitted with RUN FLAT tires?

Not insane. With the average cost of a new car being $48K I'm going to ask them to throw in a spare unless car is equipped with run flats. And the COST of a key fob to the dealer isn't near $200. Thats just what they hose you for programming it (which takes less than 5 mins).

funny, i just laughed at dealer, got on amazon paid $30 and $50 to reprogram at lock smith. 80 vs 320

I'll stick to driving old.

I wish! My Kubota buggy is though. Also discovered not only was there no spare in this car there was no jack either.

Got a new Honda Pilot Trailsport last month and I knew it came with a full sized spare. 2 weeks after buying it I got a flat on the way to work and was surprised to see the spare had a matching wheel and tire, not just a cheap steel rim and misc tire.

I have a spare alright. On the back of my Tailgate. Jeep Wrangler. My problem is what to do if I get a flat. Suckers are hefty. Could probably pull it off and let it fall but the flat one damn sure isn't going back on the mount. Old and not very stout anymore. Never had a vehicle without a full size spare.

Yup, Toyota does this too, including the TPMS sensor. Learned that the hard way one winter when I had adequately aired up my tires on our 4Runner, but the TPMS light didn't go out. Aha! Threw some air in the spare and all was right with the world again. As Toyota's main competitor, not surprised Honda is doing this as well.

I will stick to driving a pickup with a full size spare and D or E rated tires.

I own two Toyotas. The TPMS comes on, and goes off, randomly. But by golly I'm sure I have 5 properly inflated tires on each vehicle now!

I hate those things. I can tell if my tire is low without the idiot light.

Yep.

That was my first thought too.

I loved doing 5-tire rotations too. Wish I could do that on my truck, but the black steel non-TPMS wheel wouldn't work for that very well. And I'm not down for buying a new matching aluminum wheel with a TPMS sensor right now.

I look every time to see if the spare is a donut or full sized. My Chevrolet has 20” tires, the spare is a 18”. Seemed odd to be, but whatever, at least it has something full size.