laid over, where are you getting this data? Blakesnake never said they were sensitive, he said they were small. He never said where they live either, as if that mattered. It's impossible to say a 308 is too much. We don't know the weight of the rifle, muzzle brake or can, recoil pad installed. Have you ever shot a 308 that weighs over 20 pounds?

I am a father of a pre-teen girl. She does not like noise. Kid is tough as nails but she doesent like noise. That’s where the suppressor comes in.

People also coddle kids too much where they don’t need it. A .243 is not a hard kicking round by any stretch. I shot a 6 lb 30-30 when I was 10 years old and at 12 got a .270. I don’t think I weighed 75 lbs at 12.

Kids are also not the best shots and it’s wise to give them as much margin of error as possible. A marginal hit with a .7mm-08 is much better than a marginal hit from a .223. I’m not a huge fan of the .243 either but it’s much better than a .223.


Don’t handicap kids unnecessarily and if they can’t handle an appropriate caliber wait until they can.

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Women and children don't like loud and they don't like recoil.

Any teacher is doing them a disservice by trying to teach them to shoot accurately as well as manage recoil at the same time. Get them shooting sometime comfortable first, then move to more power and managing recoil.

My daughter (90 pounds) is days away from shooting the Tikka Varmint .223, that is suppressed. Almost no recoil, and quiet. She'll hit everything to 800 yards before we move to something larger, like her 6.5X47 Lapua.

She's gonna like that, nice and easy and oodles of fun. What took you so long slacker? As I recall, she the same age as mine.

Blacksnake, let me know if you have any interest in getting hands on a 6.5 Grendel sized for kids. I don't mean to buy, I mean to test for/with the girls.

Will be tougher on the girls mentally to wound and lose an animal than working with additional recoil. My vote is .243 all day long over 223. 30.06 at 7 years old? Man, we were tough back in the day! You take the cake !

I tried to get her on a rifle a few years ago. She's so small she couldn't get a sight picture. I recently bought a KRG Bravo for that barreled action. Now I can adjust the chassis to get her a clean sight picture. I waited until she brought it up. And she brought it up two weeks ago.

She hears rifle fire on a weekly basis. Now she wants to do it herself.

Shooting a gun doesn’t have to hurt. That’s why silencers are the best investment a shooter can make.

When I was a skinny little kid, my dad started me out with a Browning BAR .243 Win. Heavy, and semi-auto, so recoil never bothered me, but, FWIW, I don't recall ever having a one-shot kill on a deer using that rifle.

I'd sold that rifle to a friend years before my daughter was even born. My dad, though, had a lightweight 6mm Rem bolt-action rifle that I thought was a good choice for her when she was about 9 yrs old (2004). Alas, I should've tried it myself before letting her pull the trigger because, after her first shot (100 gr bullet) at the range, I couldn't get her to pull the trigger a second time! Looked more closely and tears were streaming down her cheeks. Turns out that recoil with that little rifle is surprisingly stout! My daughter never touched it again.

After that misstep, I ponied up to a custom 7mm08 Rem for her, with a muzzle brake (always using hearing protection). Recoil, noise, and muzzle blast with that rifle never bothered her. Ended up being a very good choice for her.

Nowadays, though, I think a suppressed rifle of just about any modest cartridge would be ideal for a young girl. Braked would be my second choice.

Just went thru this with my 9 year old granddaughter.
Her dad is a competitor in pistol/AR comps so he has a Mantis trainer. Her and her little brother practice trying to score better on that which helps trigger control tremendously we found as she could hit moving targets with the 22 Rascal on first trip to range.
So first step start them with fun shooting with 22’s then progress to 223 etc up to hunting calibers Suppressed with lighter loads.
I bought a barreled action Bergara 6.5 that the barrel had been shortened from classified ad here on THF. Dropped it into a MDT chassis that has an adjustable stock and loaded 50 rounds of reduced 123gr loads for her to just play with.
First trip we just shot to 300yds and she had no issues. Next trip she ran steel animal targets to 600yds with no misses.
Then we let her shoot while sighting in the rifle with the load made to take an elk.
Since it was suppressed she didn’t seem to notice the extra recoil.
Last Christmas’s cow elk

Took me forever to convert but I admit, suppressors are the best thing to happen to shooting since the invention of smokeless powder.

Same. My only regret is not picking one up years ago.

Yep. Wish I had learned earlier. Still don’t know how this got by me.

Wasn't the 6.5 Creedmore designed for little girls?

I thought the 350 legend had more recoil than that. I was under the impression it is somewhere along the lines of a 35 remington that fits in a AR15. But i started using the googles based on what you said and every chart i have read so far says this load has lighter recoil than a .243.

I just never understood it’s usefulness outside of a straight wall cartridge state. But i am starting to get it.

Can a suppressor for a 9mm pistol can also be used on the 350 legend?

my 7 year old started off with 6.5 CM

if I had known about 77 TMK’s in a 223 I would of started her off with that. It’s about all I’m personally using now. Especially for bears and lions moving forward.

18” 22 CM & 77 TMK’s suppressed might be the perfect rifle for me going forward.

Whatever i get next it is coming with a suppressor. Just based on the last several posts in this thread. Suppessor… suppressor… suppressor… suppressor…

It is a pretty big deal for me to spend $1k or more on a single accessory like that. Plus a tax stamp. It’s a big deal for a lot of folks. But i feel like i might be making a mistake, just by not having a suppressor.

Smart move.

Nope. They were designed for folks with a lifted yellow jeep with rubber ducks on the dash.

There is a <1% chance you will regret this purchase. It's a total game changer. Do it.

Harvester evo. $699 and a great hunting suppressor.

SilencerCo Scythe-Ti

6.16"
7.3 ounces

300 Win Mag rated. No barrel length restrictions.

I researched two weeks ago. It was between the Scythe, or Dead Air

SilencerCo fixed a baffle strike that was entirely my fault free of charge. Great customer service.

118 db with 300 blackout. Less than 22 LR. Man that sounds like the solution. It’s not cheep though.