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Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… #8956645 11/16/23 11:07 PM
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Make America Great Again

Re: Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… [Re: Tbar] #8956647 11/16/23 11:16 PM
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Good thing they just approved massive UAW increases


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Re: Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… [Re: Tbar] #8956677 11/17/23 12:21 AM
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It's nuts. I know someone that bought a fully electric Escalade. Sticker on it was $209k. MSRP was what he paid. I can only imagine the resale value in a year or so.

Re: Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… [Re: Tbar] #8956681 11/17/23 12:27 AM
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The market has spoken


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Re: Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… [Re: Tbar] #8956682 11/17/23 12:29 AM
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The dealerships deserve every bit that's coming at them.


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Re: Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… [Re: Tbar] #8956710 11/17/23 01:34 AM
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My daughter likes her hybrid.

Just stop at any large truck stop with charging stations out in the country. You’ll see full charging stations that take a long time and a lot of others waiting their turn.


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Re: Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… [Re: Tbar] #8956723 11/17/23 01:47 AM
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I will just keep my tundra forever.

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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
I will just keep my tundra forever.


Yep!


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Originally Posted by Grit
Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
I will just keep my tundra forever.


Yep!


My Tundra is 3 years old and I just hit 10K miles so I'm thinking the same thing.

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Paid off my 8 yr old truck & I'll be keeping it.

Re: Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… [Re: skinnerback] #8956775 11/17/23 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by skinnerback
Paid off my 8 yr old truck & I'll be keeping it.


ditto!! Its a massive hunting budget boost!!

Its actuall sad, In my 20’s it was a 5-6k boost, todays truck prices its 15-20k boost



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Paid off my 8 yr old truck & I'll be keeping it.


ditto!! Its a massive hunting budget boost!!

Its actuall sad, In college it was a 5-6k boost, todays truck prices its 15-20k boost




Yep, crazy. No desire for a new truck. Can't work on them and they are stupid expensive now. Rat holing that money for a piece of hunting ground and a boat. I don't care what people think about the truck I drive anymore, especially materialistic women. No need for flashy things and BS, past that.

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My GAS about what people think left a long time ago. 2006 F150 here, insurance is cheap and maintenance is easy.


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I think keeping a vehicle until it dies will become the norm. Between houses and autos, I don't see how younger folks can afford to accumulate anything. They will never be out of debt if they have to finance everything for a long time. 40 year mortgages and 10 year car loans will probably be the result. It's a bad trap.

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Originally Posted by Payne
My GAS about what people think left a long time ago. 2006 F150 here, insurance is cheap and maintenance is easy.



My man.... cheers

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So, the guy complaining about EVs is trying to sell electric bikes in the middle of his video? Sorry. He lost all credit there.


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Re: Ford and Chevy CEOs begging… [Re: Payne] #8956833 11/17/23 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Payne
My GAS about what people think left a long time ago. 2006 F150 here, insurance is cheap and maintenance is easy.

This

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Originally Posted by jetdad
I think keeping a vehicle until it dies will become the norm. Between houses and autos, I don't see how younger folks can afford to accumulate anything. They will never be out of debt if they have to finance everything for a long time. 40 year mortgages and 10 year car loans will probably be the result. It's a bad trap.


This is the truth.

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Originally Posted by jetdad
I think keeping a vehicle until it dies will become the norm.

Why wasn't it already? It's not like vehicles became overly complex overnight. I have a 2003 Yukon Denali with 184K bought in 2008 with 66K, 2005 Bonneville with 115K bought with 80K, a 2009 Saturn Vue with 148K bought with 135K, a 2007 Sierra with 181K bought with 77K, and a 2014 Chevy Equinox I got for free at 171K that has a 177K now. They're all paid for. Out of those five, I financed the Yukon for 5 years and paid the bank off in three. Financed the Sierra from my Dad on a three year but paid him off in one. The other three were cash.

Originally Posted by jetdad
Between houses and autos, I don't see how younger folks can afford to accumulate anything. They will never be out of debt if they have to finance everything for a long time. 40 year mortgages and 10 year car loans will probably be the result. It's a bad trap.

40 year mortgages and 10 year car notes are already the norm. I have one more kid to buy for in the next two years and I will consider replacing my wife's Yukon. She has been driving it for 15 years and it was five years old when I got it.

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The dealerships deserve every bit that's coming at them.

The manufacturer should take by far the greatest blame. Dealers are just franchises.


Pass the gravy.


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Hybrids are the way to go.

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Originally Posted by Roll-Tide
I will just keep my tundra forever.



EVs were just the latest thing to sell.
The party is over.


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Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
Originally Posted by Creekrunner
The dealerships deserve every bit that's coming at them.

The manufacturer should take by far the greatest blame. Dealers are just franchises.


I've known quite a few dealership owners, as I'm sure you have too. I stand by my original statement.


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Originally Posted by Creekrunner
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The dealerships deserve every bit that's coming at them.

The manufacturer should take by far the greatest blame. Dealers are just franchises.


I've known quite a few dealership owners, as I'm sure you have too. I stand by my original statement.

This is penance for all the dealer "market adjustments" people were dumb enough to pay for.....that was not on the manufacturer. Certain dealerships were not charging extra because people are impatient and gullible.

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As was the case when high gas prices resulted in SUV's collecting dust on sales lots across the nation, the American taxpayer will eventually provide another bailout.


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