Guess they should've given the perp a ribbon.

It’s curable now but wasn’t until 2013. Plenty of dead cops from it or who have massive liver damage from it. Meth addicts have a mouthful of blood almost always from their teeth rotting out. You would know about this but your knowledge is based on reading about it rather than seeing it all firsthand. You’re an astronomer but damn sure no astronaut.

Hepatitis C has been considered fully curable since 2010. If that's your real concern then we will put a provision in the law that says if someone spits in your mouth and they have Hep C that can be a state jail felony or whatever felony the legislators think it should be. I have a great uncle that picked up hepatitis C from a blood transfusion on the battlefield in the Pacific during the second World War. He's been dying from it since I was old enough for someone to explain to me what hep C was and he also drank like Winston Churchill. He lived to be 103 years old. I'm pretty sure he volunteered but I know a lot of people were drafted for the second world war. Police officers are not drafted and they voluntarily do the job. If the hazards involved with the job are too great they are free to find other employment. Fyi, I'm the son of a policeman and grew up around policemen. In my dad's era if someone had spit in his face he would have beaten on them until he got tired, then he would have taken a break, and once he caught his second wind he would have beat on them some more. I don't think the thought of sending them to prison for 70 years would have ever crossed his mind.

If this guy isn’t in Austin he’s missing quite an opportunity.

I live across the street from SMU. The problem is you're jaded because of what you did for a living for a long time and you have a totalitarian and authoritarian slant because of it. I always err on the side of civil rights and you don't. I want to severely restrict the harm that government can do while you were an agent of the government and while I'm sure you were a fair competent investigator your outlook is slanted. I have no problem punishing someone for a crime but making a mountain out of a molehill regardless of your reasons is why I call myself an activist juror. Juries are the last defense against tyrannical behavior by the government and I take that responsibility seriously. You are experienced and because of that you are concerned about the ill health effects of someone spitting in someone else's face. I will concede your point but I will never concede the point that it is an aggravated assault and if I'm ever on a jury I will find the man not guilty in a case like this. We're going to Simply have to agree to disagree on the matter and I'm sure it won't be the last time. Please don't think I get butt hurt having discussions like this, I really enjoy them and they're even more fun in person.

Edit: If we legalize methamphetamines where any citizen of age can buy a couple of ounces of it for the cost of a six pack of beer at 7-Eleven you won't have to worry about toothless bloody spitted meth heads spitting on officers any longer because they will no longer be criminals albeit they will still be doing crazy meth head stuff just like they do now, they just won't be stealing to afford it. They'll probably just be dead.

I find blkt2 to be quite level-headed, open-minded, intelligent, and a follower of the Constitution as best as he can interpret. Agree with him or not, he’s clearly approaching things with the correct perspective.

If living with a female dominatrix is level-headed, I must be out of touch with what level-headed is.

He’s not perfect.

For what it’s worth, I value your posts just as much. It’s good to see both sides of any coin.

What happened in this instance is not justice. It is a perversion of justice. I could care less about the man and wouldn't care if they accidentally shot him while he was in the back seat of their patrol car.


This comment validates my suspicion that you really don't care about honest justice. You're okay with a scumbag getting shot in the back of an LEO car but are outraged at time given a scumbag for assault. If you were worried about over reach the shooting should be of more concern.

A lot of truth in these two statements.

FAFO.

We split up 12 years ago and I have since gotten married. That was just her job. When I first met her she was a customer and sold insurance. I was seeing somebody at the time and her and I were only friends. Insurance wasn't working out for her, she was a single mother, she had bills to pay, and a certain set of skills that were only valuable to certain people. I don't judge, I'm a pool guy with an advanced degree that serves no purpose and I'm pretty open-minded and not jealous. To the best of my knowledge she has retired from that profession and has settled down with a man she knew in high school who has a large spread out past Weatherford. I don't really have a single thing to say bad about the woman.

Yeah, he is and some of his musings lead him to inconvenient outcomes. His solution to the drug problem in this nation has been exposed in Oregon. He decried the faults of liberal policies, a convenient way of shielding or clouding his argument which were showing it's buttox.

Here, he seemingly defends some perp who spits on LEO as if it is NOTHING. Side effects be darned. "What - Hep C? That can be cured." Listen to yourself. Earth to blankey, you don't spit on nobody and especially no LEO, people there to protect & serve us. Btw, I believe the spitter dude's sentence considered a previous history and was not solely based on the multiple spitting incidents.

I have seen rather logical people use valid positioning to get them to places which are unsustainable.

Used to be in the Dallas county, you killed someone like during a fight with a gun you would maybe get 2 years involuntary manslaughter.

Look like the time are a changing.

Writing has never been my best subject. You misunderstood my meaning. I would be okay with the man being shot in the back of a patrol car by accident because I understand that things sometimes happen in the Heat of the Moment. Irrational people having a hissy fit like the man the story is about spitting in someone's face is also something that happens in the Heat of the Moment. It is disgusting, it is not a serious crime. I use the example of a jury that I sat on where a drunk with a long history of drunk driving killed two people. The maximum we were allowed to give him under the law was 20 years. The man killed two people and only got 20 years. Now someone comes along and gets 70 years for spitting in someone's face and I'm supposed to jump up and down and clap and say that that is justice?

My position on drugs has not been exposed by Oregon and how they're running their policies. Because it's only one area and drugs are still illegal but simply not being prosecuted everything gets concentrated there the same way flies swarm in to a rotting corpse. I was in Portland in the middle of November and rented a car and drove around. I deliberately found something that I would call skid row so I got out and walked around to see things for myself. It's way worse than you see on TV.

I simply don't believe that law enforcement is here to protect and serve us and that belief is backed up by 54 separate Supreme Court rulings saying that police don't have to protect and serve us. The police are there to protect and serve us the same way the teachers unions are there to teach children in public schools. They have effectively become a special interest group by themselves. My belief is that we should get rid of the majority of the laws on the books and only concentrate on truly Bad actors instead of ever expanding police Powers while eroding civil rights and building more prisons.


In the case we are discussing there was No HEP C and squawking about a hypothetical is just as pathetic as the gun control ninnies running around screeching that a 30-round magazine should be banned because it could be used by a mass shooter.

In Dallas county like many other big liberal counties such as Harris or Travis county and so on, it all depends upon who shot who! Politics and race play a huge factor in applying justice in those counties.

I ran into a black guy about 25 years ago and he was just getting out of prison for a life sentence and a girl I was seeing was his PO. He went to prison for murder in the late seventies. He did 12 and 1/2 years and got out on parole and when I ran into him he had just gone back for 2 years on a minor violation. He was out late one night and got into an argument with a guy more accurately the man got into an argument with him. He tried to leave and when he did the man shot him in the back twice. He fell face first down onto the ground and the man that shot him walked up to him talking smack and was going to kill him. Unbeknownst to the shooter the man he just shot had a revolver in his jacket pocket and he had his hand on it. The man fired six shots from inside of his jacket pocket and hit the man five times out of six. He said it was actually really satisfying to see the surprise on the guy's face when he shot him. He didn't trust lawyers so he represented himself at trial. He had three trials with himself as the attorney and it was a hung jury every time. They finally convinced him to take a court appointed attorney and that attorney got him a life sentence. I will repeat that, a man who killed a man who had just shot him in the back got a life sentence for killing the man and the argument was over nothing and he was trying to leave when he was shot. Frequently people telling their story are extremely biased so I dug into his files and found out that every single word that came out of his mouth was exactly what the investigators wrote down. Justice? Maybe, the guy was a hoodlum anyway and was probably doing a lot of hoodlum stuff when he just happened to get wrapped up in that incident. Since I can't even remember the man's name anymore I can't look up what's become of him.

Some years back my friend was working on his doctoral thesis in criminal justice and he was able to pull the stats for every single person in TDCJ. It's just run of the mill criminal stuff stuff when you're reviewing it but occasionally something will really stand out. This is an example of something unusual that stood out, there are three people incarcerated in Texas prisons who have life sentences and their crime was jumping bail or maybe it was failure to appear I don't remember exactly what it was called. Laws change over the years and what we call something in one decade may not be the same thing in the next. I have friends that are prosecutors and I know sometimes they will go for the low hanging fruit conviction when they don't think they can get a conviction on the more serious charge. If I had to guess I would say that that is the case in what I just described but it's still shocking to the senses to see people doing a life sentence for something relatively minor.

This guy is a POS and deserved everything he got. Unfortunately these kinds of sentences send a louder message to law abiding citizens than it does to criminals.

Like I said earlier in this post. The message that got sent is from the government to the citizenry at large and that is that we will do anything we want to you regardless of how minor your transgression actually is. Communist China at least has the courtesy to simply shoot you in the head instead of condemning you to a completely mundane purgatory for the rest of your life.

I guarantee you his local people know exactly what he got sentenced to.

Your attitude that simply ignores the civil rights of the citizenry is why even staunch conservatives like myself are willing to take away qualified immunity,, make police officers civilly and criminally liable for any misdeeds that they may do and severely defunding police departments and letting the chips fall where they may. But none of that matters because you got your pound of flesh out of the man not realizing that you are steadily eroding the public Trust that the citizenry has had for decades in law enforcement. Law enforcement is not God and they do not get to set the rules, they do what they are told by the legislators and they need to and are required to by law to enforce the law in a just and neutral fashion without bias. Once you step away from that you're nothing but a jack booted Thug who can't resist the urge to keep your boot on someone's neck.

Edit: Because of the contemptible delight that you are showing for a man being sentenced to 70 years for doing something that harmed no one and simply was disgusting I'm willing to start prosecuting police officers like these men with any felony that can be made to stick and sending them to prison versus simply saying mistakes happen. Turnabout is fair play my friend.

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