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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:07 PM
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I will see your Canada and raise you a Mexico. One gun store for the entire country. Yet the cartels have more fire power than the Mexican government. Exactly what would happen here if guns were outlawed.....
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:18 PM
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Date: April 19, 1995 Number of deaths: 168 Injured: 680+ Weapons: ANNM fertilizer truck bomb
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:20 PM
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Date: April 19, 1995 Number of deaths: 168 Injured: 680+ Weapons: ANNM fertilizer truck bomb There you go with facts again.....
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:23 PM
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Amazing you people think an 18 year old with no upbringing and spends all there time playing video games should be able to buy guns just cause there 18. Baffling
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:28 PM
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Amazing you people think an 18 year old with no upbringing and spends all there time playing video games should be able to buy guns just cause there 18. Baffling You liberal sheep go about this completely backwards. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO STOP BAD PEOPLE FROM GETTING FIREARMS!!! Get it through your thick head. They have been on this continent for over 600 years. They are here to stay and widely available. The answer to this is to harden the targets. You have armed people at every school. When a shooter tries to shoot up a school, you kill him. It is just that simple.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:32 PM
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Amazing you people think an 18 year old with no upbringing and spends all there time playing video games should be able to buy guns just cause there 18. Baffling So when a 21 year old does it do we raise the age to 22 and then 23 and then 24, etc
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:34 PM
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Lets start by building more jails and mental hospitals, aka storage units for nut jobs. Let's lock up all the habitual trouble makers and known nut cases and throw away key. Then LEO could focus more on watching potential threats and less time chasing the same old idiots around 24/7.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:39 PM
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Amazing you people think an 18 year old with no upbringing and spends all there time playing video games should be able to buy guns just cause there 18. Baffling What makes 18 years of age the issue? I know 50 year old people who don't need to have a gun because they are mentally ill, yet we have federal laws that protect those mental cases and allow them to continue life like nothing is wrong. Why would we not look first at people with mental defects or those who are depressed and don't value life? You/Us banning 18 year olds from buying guns is NOT going to solve this issue, this is much like expanding background checks, all these guys or most of them cleared the background check. Baffles me that folks like you believe laws cure every ill, we don't even enforce the laws we have now, and people intent on doing harm just steal what they cannot purchase legally. Even though the Oklahoma City Bomber was well trained in firearms and tactics, he didn't use one and didn't need one.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:39 PM
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I think there is going to some kind of change in gun laws. What I do not know. At the least a limit of rounds a magazine can hold. Hopefully that will be the extent of it.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:42 PM
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Lets start by building more jails and mental hospitals, aka storage units for nut jobs. Let's lock up all the habitual trouble makers and known nut cases and throw away key. Then LEO could focus more on watching potential threats and less time chasing the same old idiots around 24/7. Negative, we have plenty of those money sucking leeches. Death row, kill em all. That makes more space. Bring back the chain gang working on our roads. Prison won't be so much fun anymore, and that will also make more space.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:42 PM
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Lets start by building more jails and mental hospitals, aka storage units for nut jobs. Let's lock up all the habitual trouble makers and known nut cases and throw away key. Then LEO could focus more on watching potential threats and less time chasing the same old idiots around 24/7. Negative, we have plenty of those money sucking leeches. Death row, kill em all. That makes more space. Bring back the chain gang working on our roads. Prison won't be so much fun anymore, and that will also make more space. Yep, I knew I loved you for a reason
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:44 PM
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Guys, blanked is merely laughing as he trolls us with these ridiculous claims about how canada is better and 18 yos don't need to have guns.
Don't feed the troll!!!
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:44 PM
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Lets start by building more jails and mental hospitals, aka storage units for nut jobs. Let's lock up all the habitual trouble makers and known nut cases and throw away key. Then LEO could focus more on watching potential threats and less time chasing the same old idiots around 24/7. Negative, we have plenty of those money sucking leeches. Death row, kill em all. That makes more space. Bring back the chain gang working on our roads. Prison won't be so much fun anymore, and that will also make more space. That works too lol
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:46 PM
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Amazing you people think an 18 year old with no upbringing and spends all there time playing video games should be able to buy guns just cause there 18. Baffling You liberal sheep go about this completely backwards. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO STOP BAD PEOPLE FROM GETTING FIREARMS!!! Get it through your thick head. They have been on this continent for over 600 years. They are here to stay and widely available. The answer to this is to harden the targets. You have armed people at every school. When a shooter tries to shoot up a school, you kill him. It is just that simple. Works for me.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:48 PM
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I have no problem raising the legal age to buy a firearm to 21, just as it is to buy a beer.
I also agree School Resource Officers need to be far more hardened both mentally and physically than they are now. My wife and I watched one at a recent baseball game and both agreed the guy was not physically capable of getting quickly to any point on campus where he needed to engage a shooter. I also suspect the vast majority of the women who currently hold these positions don't have what it takes to protect school campuses at the level that's needed. My gut is there are both men and women in these positions who will never have what it takes to protect the streets, and for that reason, become a SRO.
While I'm no LEO, I have to believe these are seen as "cush" positions within the LEO community. That may have been the case a decade or two ago but not any more.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:52 PM
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Terrorists around the world have proven we cannot protect everyone all the time. It is really just that simple, they will find a way to carry out their attacks regardless of our planning. We can harden the targets and derail their plans but they will find other targets. The real question I have is, Do we treasure our children enough to protect them at school? If we do, then we need to stop all this debate and get them protected. The fact that this kid was able to just jump a fence and enter an unlocked school house is all telling here, knowledgable men and women have outlined all the means to accomplish the goal, yet we politicalize these shootings and make them about political agendas. We have hardened targets all over America which make it very difficult for a bad guy to gain access, yet responding police are provided easy access when they need to get inside, either that or the site has their own response team.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:55 PM
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Terrorists around the world have proven we cannot protect everyone all the time. It is really just that simple, they will find a way to carry out their attacks regardless of our planning. We can harden the targets and derail their plans but they will find other targets. The real question I have is, Do we treasure our children enough to protect them at school? If we do, then we need to stop all this debate and get them protected. The fact that this kid was able to just jump a fence and enter an unlocked school house is all telling here, knowledgable men and women have outlined all the means to accomplish the goal, yet we politicalize these shootings and make them about political agendas. We have hardened targets all over America which make it very difficult for a bad guy to gain access, yet responding police are provided easy access when they need to get inside, either that or the site has their own response team. Yup, there are some very common sense, non controversial methods of making schools more difficult targets. Alot of things that could be done prior to school opening in the fall
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 01:59 PM
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Guys, blanked is merely laughing as he trolls us with these ridiculous claims about how canada is better and 18 yos don't need to have guns.
Don't feed the troll!!! This here!
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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I have no problem raising the legal age to buy a firearm to 21, just as it is to buy a beer.
I also agree School Resource Officers need to be far more hardened both mentally and physically than they are now. My wife and I watched one at a recent baseball game and both agreed the guy was not physically capable of getting quickly to any point on campus where he needed to engage a shooter. I also suspect the vast majority of the women who currently hold these positions don't have what it takes to protect school campuses at the level that's needed. My gut is there are both men and women in these positions who will never have what it takes to protect the streets, and for that reason, become a SRO.
While I'm no LEO, I have to believe these are seen as "cush" positions within the LEO community. That may have been the case a decade or two ago but not any more. So, you are fine with raising the right to purchase a gun to 21 in an age where we have 40 year olds still living with Mamma.....comical to believe age is the defining issue for maturity.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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I would be willing to give up all of my guns (and I have a lot!) if I knew another person would never die by gun violence again.
In fact, I am willing to take a chance on the theory raised by the left that this works. I will put my guns in escrow, and the left puts $100,000 in escrow for each gun I own. If no one ever dies from gun violence, they keep my guns. If someone dies (in other words, their theory failed), then I get my guns back plus the money.
Anyone willing to put your money where your mouth is?
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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05/31/22 03:58 PM
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One day it will not be a gun that kills a bunch of innocent children. It is not the methos, but the reason that needs to be solved.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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One day it will not be a gun that kills a bunch of innocent children. It is not the methos, but the reason that needs to be solved. Unfortunately, this is a not a society that wants to hold parents accountable. Hell, accountability is hard to be found with so many things these days. I would say the average teacher and administrator has far more fear these days of problem parents and students than they do firearms. And "Leave no Child Behind" has only made it worse.
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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I have no problem raising the legal age to buy a firearm to 21, just as it is to buy a beer.
I also agree School Resource Officers need to be far more hardened both mentally and physically than they are now. My wife and I watched one at a recent baseball game and both agreed the guy was not physically capable of getting quickly to any point on campus where he needed to engage a shooter. I also suspect the vast majority of the women who currently hold these positions don't have what it takes to protect school campuses at the level that's needed. My gut is there are both men and women in these positions who will never have what it takes to protect the streets, and for that reason, become a SRO.
While I'm no LEO, I have to believe these are seen as "cush" positions within the LEO community. That may have been the case a decade or two ago but not any more. So, you are fine with raising the right to purchase a gun to 21 in an age where we have 40 year olds still living with Mamma.....comical to believe age is the defining issue for maturity. Not trying to argue or anything but research shows that the brain isn't fully developed until sometime around 25. I'm guessing that's one reason why insurance goes down pretty significantly at that age. They sometimes don't make rational decisions at age 18 that they would at age 25 you know? On a side note why is there so much talk about the AR 15 causing some much more damage than other rounds? I mean you have people talking about that round blowing them up to being unrecognizable. Where is this coming from? It doesn't make a lot of logical sense to me but people are pointing to that as a reason to ban AR sales that somehow not only can you get more rounds off but it does more damage than other weapons
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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99--- insurance goes down... stfu...
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Re: Very controversial. What gun reform could you accept?
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99--- insurance goes down... stfu... lol well it's been a while but I remember vividly when I turned 25 and my insurance went down significantly. Does it not anymore? That was the magic number for males back in my day. Of course that was a long time ago
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