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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: Hudbone]
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11/11/20 12:40 PM
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I am not the one ignoring nothing. A man exercises his property rights and somes calls him petty for it. So what? Petty, stupid, illogical, misled and/or whatever, it is his property. He can do with it as he pleases. When you don't own something, you do not get to dictate what takes place there. it really is that simple. I feel sorry for Skinner. No doubts about that, but this could well be to his betterment. He can put himself somewhere where can continue to show his real colors and not be walking on egg shells. I don't think Skinner is very good at that (ie: walking on egg shells).
Btw, a guided hunter coming in from the airport and peeing at a front gate miles off 77 led us to getting kicked off a wonderful piece of God's country between the Norias gate and Raymondville
You got kicked off a place for peeing at a gate? I’d like to hear the rest of that story!
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: kry226]
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11/11/20 12:42 PM
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Skinner has accepted the blame for his own, personal actions and that's a hallmark of a good man. What gets me is so many on this forum seem to be in denial. I cannot believe how many of you guys rail against the property owner for doing what he wanted to do on and with his property. Reverse the scenario - if some long time guest did this to Skinner on his property with Skinner kicking him off, many of you guys would say it was totally justified. Get a grip. Earth to everyone - Skinner ain't winning no ribbon here. Yes, Skinner has, and of course the owner can do whatever he wants. It's his property. But that still doesn't mean he's not petty and The problem with the landowner is the same as the rest of the country. The left's entire identity is political. They have politicized every single issue and facet in their life, and their foundational beliefs are based on false equivalency/logical fallacy. If you're for Trump, you must be a racist homophobe, etc, etc. There's no such thing as "agree to disagree" in their world. In fact, there's no room for disagreement at all in their world. It just happens to have manifested through this situation. This mindset is destroying our country and I feel we have an obligation to call people out on this. If you're a conservative and feel the same, you're also part of the problem. We have to get back to a place where we as a society can have a civil discourse about things with which we disagree. That's where America's greatness really shines. And those who ignore this are the ones who need to get a grip. Agree 100%........A better example for your kids is to stand up for what you believe in IMO........we are a long drive to the Pitchfork.......but we have plenty of does to be shot and all the hogs you want to shoot......PM me, it will be worth the drive to visit God's country......... And Hudbone.......being a landowner does not excuse you for being an a$$hole.........
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: Hudbone]
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11/11/20 12:45 PM
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Btw, a guided hunter coming in from the airport and peeing at a front gate miles off 77 led us to getting kicked off a wonderful piece of God's country between the Norias gate and Raymondville
I lost $2k and got booted off a lease out past Lawn that I never even set foot on because one of the other guys drove his truck off the road. The property owner basically stole $12k.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 12:47 PM
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I am ALL ABOUT civil discourse, but what is good for the goose has to be good for the gander. The land owner wasn't being civil when he baited Skinner. He was just looking for a reason and yes, that may well be petty. Skinner got punked.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 12:57 PM
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Skinner, I feel for you. I know how easy it is to get attached to a place. We lost a place I was on for 19 years due to a new family member taking over the ownership of the ranch. Loosing a place you love hurts, no matter the reason. The deer lease business arrangement is unique. I don't know of any other like it. Many, if not most are handshake agreements. Hunters pay a fortune for the consideration, which is hunting rights. Any other arrangement would make you a customer and you could have expectations. With demand for leases always outpacing supply, it just ain't like that. I started with a new group 6 years ago. The lease manager was sizing me up as a potential member while showing me the place. I told him that deer leases were the only business arrangement I knew of where you had to pay to be there but still act like a guest at someone's house. It's good to be the king, as they say. I hope it works out that you get to stay. If not, good luck finding a new place to enjoy.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 12:58 PM
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Things usually work out for the best just forget that Sum Beach and find another place.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 01:00 PM
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Defacing someone's property sounds more like something a democrat would do. It could harm our cause if widespread.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 01:09 PM
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Gimme a break. Some of y'all have zero sense of humor. Zip. Nada.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 01:28 PM
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Meh, [censored] him and move on.
Don't teach your kids to be roll-over conservatives. By the responses this forum is full of them. World has enough of that. You don't owe anyone an apology.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 01:44 PM
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Dayum that sucks for your entire family. But I agree with the folks that say F Him, you have to stand your ground for what you believe in and teach your kids a life lesson on principles. Good luck finding new memories for you and the kiddos, plenty of people on here will help you with that
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 01:49 PM
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Business is $$$, and nobody likes to lose $$$.
You mentioned "the others in the group."
Perhaps all the men could talk to the owner and remind him it was all in good fun, just as his original joke of putting the sign up just to rattles chains.
Nobody has to go sideways with the man regarding politics, but if all men go together and reason with him, he might change his mind and forget his anger.
The owner wouldn't want to lose all the business. I'm not suggesting the other men give an ultimatum, but the owner should get the hint. Nobody wants to lose privileges.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: Indianation65]
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11/11/20 01:56 PM
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Business is $$$, and nobody likes to lose $$$.
You mentioned "the others in the group."
Perhaps all the men could talk to the owner and remind him it was all in good fun, just as his original joke of putting the sign up just to rattles chains.
Nobody has to go sideways with the man regarding politics, but if all men go together and reason with him, he might change his mind and forget his anger.
The owner wouldn't want to lose all the business. I'm not suggesting the other men give an ultimatum, but the owner should get the hint. Nobody wants to lose privileges.
...------ You must have been living on another planet the past 4 years - you cannot reason with someone that has that mentality. They lack the cognitive ability to do so - like seriously some type of mental illness/derangement syndrome. One would have more success and less stress teaching trigonometry to a goat.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 02:08 PM
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Sounds like the owner is going to eventually kick everyone off. You were just the first one to get your walking papers.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: Cochise]
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11/11/20 02:08 PM
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[One of would have more success and less stress teaching trigonometry to a goat. Exactly.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 02:19 PM
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Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 02:21 PM
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Mr. Cochise, I guess I do agree with you.
Trying to reason with a person who is "not reasonable" is futile.
The left is deranged.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
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11/11/20 02:22 PM
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I've learned that most liberals can dish it out, but not take it. This is so Fricking true.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: Cochise]
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11/11/20 02:24 PM
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Meh, [censored] him and move on.
Don't teach your kids to be roll-over conservatives. By the responses this forum is full of them. World has enough of that. You don't owe anyone an apology. Actually he does. He owes the LO an apology for defacing his property, and if the LO was any sort of decent, he would apologize in return for being batchit crazy over a sign, which he put there with ill intent to begin with.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 02:25 PM
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Rude behavior on his part, baiting you guys like that. But sometimes, turning the other cheek works. Don't go back and don't apologize and leave it behind you.
"If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." Ronald Reagan
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
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11/11/20 02:27 PM
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Meh, [censored] him and move on.
Don't teach your kids to be roll-over conservatives. By the responses this forum is full of them. World has enough of that. You don't owe anyone an apology. Actually he does. He owes the LO an apology for defacing his property, and if the LO was any sort of decent, he would apologize in return for being batchit crazy over a sign, which he put there with ill intent to begin with. Wah wah wah. They're stickers - just peel them off and don't be a [censored] baby. It's not like he spray painted it or stole it. Good lord. People being thin skinned babies about everything is the root of about 75% of the problems we have.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: Cochise]
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11/11/20 02:31 PM
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Meh, [censored] him and move on.
Don't teach your kids to be roll-over conservatives. By the responses this forum is full of them. World has enough of that. You don't owe anyone an apology. Actually he does. He owes the LO an apology for defacing his property, and if the LO was any sort of decent, he would apologize in return for being batchit crazy over a sign, which he put there with ill intent to begin with. Wah wah wah. They're stickers - just peel them off and don't be a [censored] baby. It's not like he spray painted it or stole it. Good lord. People being thin skinned babies about everything is the root of about 75% of the problems we have. Yep, being thin skinned is a problem now a days...... Seems like people are just looking for things to blow-up about. I've had it happen to me before.....
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
[Re: skinnerback]
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11/11/20 02:31 PM
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As has been said many times before on this forum... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes... And that goes for both sides of this argument.
If you`re running down my country, man, You`re walking on the fighting side of me. (Merle)
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
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11/11/20 02:36 PM
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I've learned that most liberals can dish it out, but not take it. This is so Fricking true. I left my last lease because of one of the landowners who sits around his house all day watching CNN came to worship Don Lemon. His constant jabs at me for being a Conservative took every ounce of enjoyment out of being around him. If it were not for my relationships with other members of his family I would have left long ago. It turned out great for me however because now I'm the only one on a small lease owned by guy who shares my political and Christian values. Some great deer too. I'm also spending more quality time in the outdoors and at home. Sometimes God puts a burr under your saddle to make you move on to where He wants you next.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
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11/11/20 02:36 PM
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Meh, [censored] him and move on.
Don't teach your kids to be roll-over conservatives. By the responses this forum is full of them. World has enough of that. You don't owe anyone an apology. Actually he does. He owes the LO an apology for defacing his property, and if the LO was any sort of decent, he would apologize in return for being batchit crazy over a sign, which he put there with ill intent to begin with. Wah wah wah. They're stickers - just peel them off and don't be a [censored] baby. It's not like he spray painted it or stole it. Good lord. People being thin skinned babies about everything is the root of about 75% of the problems we have. Yep, being thin skinned is a problem now a days...... Seems like people are just looking for things to blow-up about. I've had it happen to me before..... I'm guilty of it plenty. But the difference is - you and I can reflect and say - you know what - I was being a thin skinned baby about that - what a fool I was. The other side will continue thinking they are superior in thought and any affront towards that will be seen purely as an insult. Is what it is.
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Re: I just got the boot over politics....
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11/11/20 02:51 PM
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Sorry to hear skinner. It sounds like that landowner’s family has extended you a lot of hospitality over the years. Might be worth paying a visit with your hat in your hand and see if you can patch things up....
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