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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: majekman]
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03/18/20 05:09 AM
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I’m by far no weird conspiracy theorist...but there’s something about this whole situation that doesn’t pass the sniff test for me I agree completely.....just feels like some Mighty fishy is going on..... The response doesn’t fit the event...::
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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03/18/20 05:40 AM
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Ain’t just affecting the olds - 5 new cases today - 2 in their 20s - 1 in their 30s all in critical condition at Dallas area hospitals. No underlying conditions. Someone told me that they heard the same thing on CBS 11. I tried to find something to support this but could only find a Dallas Morning News article saying that Dallas County reported nine new cases and among them were a woman in her 20's, a man in his 30's, and a man in his 60's who were admitted to critical-care units (essentially intensive care). There may have been more to the story than what I read but it may also have been sloppy reporting by someone who equated being admitted to a critical-care unit with being in critical condition, which are two different things. I am not disputing that you heard what you heard, I am just wondering if the report was accurate. Everyone can catch it, but most with treatment will survive. The people with other health problems, compromised immune systems and the elderly are the ones that are dying.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Cochise]
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03/18/20 10:22 AM
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Ain’t just affecting the olds - 5 new cases today - 2 in their 20s - 1 in their 30s all in critical condition at Dallas area hospitals. No underlying conditions. FAKE NEWS.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 12:19 PM
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Ain’t just affecting the olds - 5 new cases today - 2 in their 20s - 1 in their 30s all in critical condition at Dallas area hospitals. No underlying conditions. FAKE NEWS. Link 1Link 2Link 3My apologies - 9 new cases yesterday; 3 in critical condition including a woman in her 20s and a man in his 30s with zero underlying health conditions. Which follows along with what's happening in Italy the past week - the average age of patients admitted into the ICU is beginning to decrease for whatever reason. Link
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 01:08 PM
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You gotta love media, from both sides that is... Many of the voices on Fox News spent more than a month minimizing the coronavirus outbreak and accusing the rest of the media of over-hyping the threat to make President Donald Trump look bad. Now, the network is finally taking the spread of the infection seriously. A Washington Post video, above, shows how quickly the network’s hosts changed their tune, from downplaying the risk and blaming Democrats for using the virus to attack Trump to warning viewers of the dangers. https://apple.news/AV62unw5tQQib4aAbpRV-4g
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 01:28 PM
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real disease real money grab too
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 01:56 PM
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 02:05 PM
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My sister grand daughter has it, she is 5 My mom friend has it. He is 85 and under respirator
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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03/18/20 02:08 PM
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I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 03:06 PM
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Cochise]
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03/18/20 03:37 PM
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My point is that I believe the media are playing fast and loose with the "critical" terminology. The original release from the County merely said that the three individuals were in critical-care units. Somewhere along the way, it appears that this was conflated with critical condition, which is another thing altogether. It may seem like spitting hairs but it's not. A critical care unit is another name for an intensive care unit. We have known for a while that many Covid 19 patients find themselves in intensive or critical care units for a period of time. It is possible but highly unlikely that all three of those patients are actually in "critical condition". With the patient privacy laws in place, there is really no way to know specifically what condition these patients are in at this point unless they authorize the release of this information.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 03:58 PM
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5 in Waco tested positive today.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Toepuncher]
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03/18/20 04:11 PM
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My sister grand daughter has it, she is 5 My mom friend has it. He is 85 and under respirator
They in the US? My point is that I believe the media are playing fast and loose with the "critical" terminology. The original release from the County merely said that the three individuals were in critical-care units. Somewhere along the way, it appears that this was conflated with critical condition, which is another thing altogether. It may seem like spitting hairs but it's not. A critical care unit is another name for an intensive care unit. We have known for a while that many Covid 19 patients find themselves in intensive or critical care units for a period of time. It is possible but highly unlikely that all three of those patients are actually in "critical condition". With the patient privacy laws in place, there is really no way to know specifically what condition these patients are in at this point unless they authorize the release of this information. Exactly....all media, regardless of who is hype right now. They all have an agenda and it isn't to report the news, what's really happening, in the US to the citizens of the US...that news was lost a long time ago. Unfortunate really, the US News outlets are just slightly better than the propaganda out of China in my eyes.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Judd]
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03/18/20 04:13 PM
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My sister grand daughter has it, she is 5 My mom friend has it. He is 85 and under respirator
They in the US? My point is that I believe the media are playing fast and loose with the "critical" terminology. The original release from the County merely said that the three individuals were in critical-care units. Somewhere along the way, it appears that this was conflated with critical condition, which is another thing altogether. It may seem like spitting hairs but it's not. A critical care unit is another name for an intensive care unit. We have known for a while that many Covid 19 patients find themselves in intensive or critical care units for a period of time. It is possible but highly unlikely that all three of those patients are actually in "critical condition". With the patient privacy laws in place, there is really no way to know specifically what condition these patients are in at this point unless they authorize the release of this information. Exactly....all media, regardless of who is hype right now. They all have an agenda and it isn't to report the news, what's really happening, in the US to the citizens of the US...that news was lost a long time ago. Unfortunate really, the US News outlets are just slightly better than the propaganda out of China in my eyes. Slightly better? I don’t see any damn difference..
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 04:23 PM
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Slightly better meaning everything they publish isn't going through that crooked bitch in CA or Trump. It could be worse.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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03/18/20 05:31 PM
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You gotta love media, from both sides that is... Many of the voices on Fox News spent more than a month minimizing the coronavirus outbreak and accusing the rest of the media of over-hyping the threat to make President Donald Trump look bad. Now, the network is finally taking the spread of the infection seriously. A Washington Post video, above, shows how quickly the network’s hosts changed their tune, from downplaying the risk and blaming Democrats for using the virus to attack Trump to warning viewers of the dangers. https://apple.news/AV62unw5tQQib4aAbpRV-4gAmazon owns the washington compost.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Toepuncher]
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03/18/20 05:39 PM
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My point is that I believe the media are playing fast and loose with the "critical" terminology. The original release from the County merely said that the three individuals were in critical-care units. Somewhere along the way, it appears that this was conflated with critical condition, which is another thing altogether. It may seem like spitting hairs but it's not. A critical care unit is another name for an intensive care unit. We have known for a while that many Covid 19 patients find themselves in intensive or critical care units for a period of time. It is possible but highly unlikely that all three of those patients are actually in "critical condition". With the patient privacy laws in place, there is really no way to know specifically what condition these patients are in at this point unless they authorize the release of this information. Makes sense to me-good point.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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03/18/20 05:40 PM
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I’m by far no weird conspiracy theorist...but there’s something about this whole situation that doesn’t pass the sniff test for me I agree completely.....just feels like some Mighty fishy is going on..... The response doesn’t fit the event...:: but I read it in the enquirer and my pappy's , grand pappy, best friends ,kids, cousin has it.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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03/18/20 05:51 PM
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I’m by far no weird conspiracy theorist...but there’s something about this whole situation that doesn’t pass the sniff test for me I agree completely.....just feels like some Mighty fishy is going on..... The response doesn’t fit the event...:: but I read it in the enquirer and my pappy's , grand pappy, best friends ,kids, cousin has it. How does the response not fit the event? The response has ZERO to do with fatalities and 100% to do with the % of people being and potentially being infected - and the percentage of those infected in serious enough condition to require hospital intervention. The response is 1,000,000% based on protecting hospitals from being overwhelmed. What is so hard to understand about that? The media hypes the deaths of course (which is stupid but expected) - but the response from the medical communities and people in power is based on protecting hospitals. Not really much of a conspiracy there.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: Blue Moon]
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03/18/20 05:55 PM
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208,000 people world wide have or have had it, that is out of 7,700,000,000.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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03/18/20 05:56 PM
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I’m by far no weird conspiracy theorist...but there’s something about this whole situation that doesn’t pass the sniff test for me I agree completely.....just feels like some Mighty fishy is going on..... The response doesn’t fit the event...:: but I read it in the enquirer and my pappy's , grand pappy, best friends ,kids, cousin has it. actually 2 of my family members have it, and thats not from the enquirer, thats from my sister who called me this morning When it hits your family overseas, i do get numb
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
[Re: dogcatcher]
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03/18/20 06:00 PM
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208,000 people world wide have or have had it, that is out of 7,700,000,000.
It's called exponential growth if left completely unchecked. Hence measures around the globe to offset/mitigate spread. Not real hard to follow - but seems like most have a hard time grasping basic math. Edit to add before someone says but the flu does "xyz" - the flu is a known illness that has been around forever. Not only do we have a vaccine, some herd immunity - we also have the capacity for that built into our hospital systems. We DO NOT have the capacity for the flu AND another virus at the same time.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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I’m by far no weird conspiracy theorist...but there’s something about this whole situation that doesn’t pass the sniff test for me I agree completely.....just feels like some Mighty fishy is going on..... The response doesn’t fit the event...:: but I read it in the enquirer and my pappy's , grand pappy, best friends ,kids, cousin has it. How does the response not fit the event? The response has ZERO to do with fatalities and 100% to do with the % of people being and potentially being infected - and the percentage of those infected in serious enough condition to require hospital intervention. The response is 1,000,000% based on protecting hospitals from being overwhelmed. What is so hard to understand about that? The media hypes the deaths of course (which is stupid but expected) - but the response from the medical communities and people in power is based on protecting hospitals. Not really much of a conspiracy there. I agree with Coshise comments about the response being an attempt to get ahead of the curve in order to keep from overrunning the hospitals. That has been my main take away from ALL this. I am certainly glad I am not the one making all these decisions-at some point we have to trust and support those in charge.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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208,000 people world wide have or have had it, that is out of 7,700,000,000.
It's called exponential growth if left completely unchecked. Hence measures around the globe to offset/mitigate spread. Not real hard to follow - but seems like most have a hard time grasping basic math. Edit to add before someone says but the flu does "xyz" - the flu is a known illness that has been around forever. Not only do we have a vaccine, some herd immunity - we also have the capacity for that built into our hospital systems. We DO NOT have the capacity for the flu AND another virus at the same time. 1 person with the flu goes into a room with 10 people and 1 will likely get the flu. 1 person with COVID-19 goes into a room with 10 people and 2-4 will likely get it. It's more infectious than the flu. It's not a human-based virus- it came from animals, therefore the human body is not set up to fight it effectively. You "it's no big deal" guys don't understand exponential growth. That's why the US is trying to "flatten the curve". With exponential growth, the healthcare system is overloaded.
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Re: STAY CALM WHEN CONFIRMED COVID-19 CASES SKYROCKET
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208,000 people world wide have or have had it, that is out of 7,700,000,000.
It's called exponential growth if left completely unchecked. Hence measures around the globe to offset/mitigate spread. Not real hard to follow - but seems like most have a hard time grasping basic math. Edit to add before someone says but the flu does "xyz" - the flu is a known illness that has been around forever. Not only do we have a vaccine, some herd immunity - we also have the capacity for that built into our hospital systems. We DO NOT have the capacity for the flu AND another virus at the same time. 1 person with the flu goes into a room with 10 people and 1 will likely get the flu. 1 person with COVID-19 goes into a room with 10 people and 2-4 will likely get it. It's more infectious than the flu. It's not a human-based virus- it came from animals, therefore the human body is not set up to fight it effectively. You "it's no big deal" guys don't understand exponential growth. That's why the US is trying to "flatten the curve". With exponential growth, the healthcare system is overloaded. agreed.
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