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FYI 53gr @ 3800fps has 1023 ft/lbs energy

150gr @ 2425fps has 1074 ft/lbs energy

I wouldn't pick either one of those combonations

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thrown in a 26 in barrel on the 22-250

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My 22-250 is better than both of those options

3200fps w/ an 80gr AMAX
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50yrds 3094fps 1700 ft/lbs
100yrds 2984fps 1581 ft/lbs
150yrds 2876fps 1469 ft/lbs
200yrds 2772fps 1364 ft/lbs

and I still take my .308 if I was only going to own one weapon.

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I'd take a 25-06 or 257 wby

My point was its hard to argue the fact that the 22-250 is to small to effectively kill deer in TX.. Thats all

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A 22-250 will kill a deer, but so will a 22. All shooters that use a 22-250 will lose a deer eventually, most already have and won't admit it. I can promise you that they will be all over me about this comment and tell me how many big deer they have dropped in their tracks, but that gun is ABSOLUTELY, not sufficient for whitetails.

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A 22-250 will kill a deer, but so will a 22. All shooters that use a 22-250 will lose a deer eventually, most already have and won't admit it. I can promise you that they will be all over me about this comment and tell me how many big deer they have dropped in their tracks, but that gun is ABSOLUTELY, not sufficient for whitetails.

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I've seen several lost that were shot with a 30-06 as well, so "that bucket don't hold no water."

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Yep, a bigger gun will make them more dead.

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and a weed eater will get your grass just as short as a schredder

and a jeep will get you from point A to point B just like a Corvette will

and a 1/2 lb hammer will drive a T-post to the same dept as a 16 lb sledge...

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A 22-250 will kill a deer, but so will a 22. All shooters that use a 22-250 will lose a deer eventually, most already have and won't admit it. I can promise you that they will be all over me about this comment and tell me how many big deer they have dropped in their tracks, but that gun is ABSOLUTELY, not sufficient for whitetails.

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I've seen several lost that were shot with a 30-06 as well, so "that bucket don't hold no water."

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The point I was trying to make was not so much sufficient but efficient. I can cut grass with a weedeater all day but a riding mower with a 48" deck is going to do a better cleaner faster job.....there are better tools for the job.

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FowlPlayer, why isn't it your "go-to" gun all of the time? You just won my argument for me. If you have faith in this load for whitetails, all of them should get the same respect, you should not use a larger caliber because you are afraid of losing the bone on top of their head.

I beleive that a 7mag is on the opposite end of the spectrum for texas whitetail, being almost as innefective, maybe I never have found the right load for a 7mag, but it seems to me that it just pinholes our thinskinned whitetails, bullet is so hot it never expands on impact.

A 22-250 is an excellent load for shooting varmints and a 7mag is an excellent load for shooting northern whitetails and muledeer. Each weapon has a good application and should be used accordingly.

You guys that are using these 22-250's on whitetails would probably argue that you could eat as much steak as me with a spoon, that might be right, but I will use my fork just the same.

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JGiles,
FowlPlyr stated that a 22-250 is his "go to" gun unless he is "hunting for big bucks".

I like a 25-06 as well, but since I started shooting a 7mm Express (.280), I haven't used anything else. No matter what I am after in the states, (unless i'm varmint huntin, then I use my 22-250) I use the same gun and load. I still say for someone that can't "use the big lawnmower", a .243 is as low as you want to go.

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That the bullet is traveling at such a high rate of speed, at such a velocity, with such ferocity, with so much MAGNUM, BELTED power, that the bullet does not expand. In other words if you don't hit a bone or something, it "pinholes em".

Now JJH, I am a good sport, so I have a pen and paper out and am ready for you to verse me on every bullet ballistic that you have knowledge of so I can be informed as you and you can bring me into the 22-250 fold.

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Best of luck to you out there

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Two Boot,
Good for you, I hope your shot is always true and you never have the misfortune of losing one. Have you EVER lost a deer with that gun?

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Yes....I have with a 30-06.. shot it high knocked it down and never found it even after putting the dogs on him.
Got him on camera the next year so he lived.

So by your question apparently you think that you have a better chance recovering a deer with a bad shot with a big bore then a small bore.... ^^ Again best of luck to you out there

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Two Boot,
Good for you, I hope your shot is always true and you never have the misfortune of losing one. Have you EVER lost a deer with that gun?

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Yes....I have with a 30-06.. shot it high knocked it down and never found it even after putting the dogs on him.
Got him on camera the next year so he lived.

So by your question apparently you think that you have a better chance recovering a deer with a bad shot with a big bore then a small bore.... ^^ Again best of luck to you out there

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Two Boot,
Good for you, I hope your shot is always true and you never have the misfortune of losing one. Have you EVER lost a deer with that gun?

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Yes....I have with a 30-06.. shot it high knocked it down and never found it even after putting the dogs on him.
Got him on camera the next year so he lived.

So by your question apparently you think that you have a better chance recovering a deer with a bad shot with a big bore then a small bore.... ^^ Again best of luck to you out there

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JGiles, you can't beleive a grown man would actually think that way, could you?? This thread was about a weapon for begginers, I definately beleive they have a better chance with the biggest caliber they can handle and nothing smaller than a .243, I thought that was obvious from my remarks of being able to kill one with a 22.

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Two Boot,
Good for you, I hope your shot is always true and you never have the misfortune of losing one. Have you EVER lost a deer with that gun?

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Yes....I have with a 30-06.. shot it high knocked it down and never found it even after putting the dogs on him.
Got him on camera the next year so he lived.

So by your question apparently you think that you have a better chance recovering a deer with a bad shot with a big bore then a small bore.... ^^ Again best of luck to you out there

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JGiles, you can't beleive a grown man would actually think that way, could you?? This thread was about a weapon for begginers, I definately beleive they have a better chance with the biggest caliber they can handle and nothing smaller than a .243, I thought that was obvious from my remarks of being able to kill one with a 22.

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Ok lets look at this way... would you start your 10 year old son or duaghter off with a 30-06... No... to me the biggest thing about shooting anything is the confedance that you can put the bullet in the right spot... take away the recoil and the noise... and you jsut elimated 99 percent of shooter error.

my best friend's grandfather owns a huge ranch in llano/mason. She is 31 and has killed more deer then most men... She grew up killing deer with the same rifle as her granddad a 222. She recently missed 2 deer this year with a 6mm that she stepped up to... why she wasn't confiedent in it as her 222(which she never lost a deer with...) she went back to the 222 and guess what bullseye

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