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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I'd be interested in a 6.5 Creedmoore.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I don't know if I'd say forget the RPR, it has some things going for it you bud's rifle does not. AR triggers have never been as nice as bolt action triggers in my opinion, and the good AR triggers cost more than a good bolt action trigger. Limiting Mag length to AR mags means the barrel had better be chambered with little to no free-bore, so that shooters can tune bullet relationship to the lands wherever woks best for their load. Ruger designed an ingenious magazine well, having a rear locking mechanism for A.I. and A.W. mags while simultaneously being able to accept AR mags with their side locking recesses. I'm not putting down your friend's rifle, but I don't think Ruger deserves to be put down either. They plowed new ground with the R.P.R. giving shooters the ability to have all the bells and whistles of a P.R.S. style rifle at a more affordable cost instead of building one piece by piece.
Your friend decided to compete with Ruger's idea, and that is what capitalism is all about, good for him. I look forward to seeing one of his rifles in action just as I looked forward to seeing a R.P.R. in action. I've spent two separate days with two separate R.P.R.s and both times they performed without one single hiccup, hitting very small targets, very far away, and doing it as quickly as the shooters could make it happen.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I don't know if I'd say forget the RPR, it has some things going for it you bud's rifle does not. AR triggers have never been as nice as bolt action triggers in my opinion, and the good AR triggers cost more than a good bolt action trigger. Limiting Mag length to AR mags means the barrel had better be chambered with little to no free-bore, so that shooters can tune bullet relationship to the lands wherever woks best for their load. Ruger designed an ingenious magazine well, having a rear locking mechanism for A.I. and A.W. mags while simultaneously being able to accept AR mags with their side locking recesses. I'm not putting down your friend's rifle, but I don't think Ruger deserves to be put down either. They plowed new ground with the R.P.R. giving shooters the ability to have all the bells and whistles of a P.R.S. style rifle at a more affordable cost instead of building one piece by piece.
Your friend decided to compete with Ruger's idea, and that is what capitalism is all about, good for him. I look forward to seeing one of his rifles in action just as I looked forward to seeing a R.P.R. in action. I've spent two separate days with two separate R.P.R.s and both times they performed without one single hiccup, hitting very small targets, very far away, and doing it as quickly as the shooters could make it happen. AI mags will work in his bolt guns
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I don't know if I'd say forget the RPR, it has some things going for it you bud's rifle does not. AR triggers have never been as nice as bolt action triggers in my opinion, and the good AR triggers cost more than a good bolt action trigger. Limiting Mag length to AR mags means the barrel had better be chambered with little to no free-bore, so that shooters can tune bullet relationship to the lands wherever woks best for their load. Ruger designed an ingenious magazine well, having a rear locking mechanism for A.I. and A.W. mags while simultaneously being able to accept AR mags with their side locking recesses. I'm not putting down your friend's rifle, but I don't think Ruger deserves to be put down either. They plowed new ground with the R.P.R. giving shooters the ability to have all the bells and whistles of a P.R.S. style rifle at a more affordable cost instead of building one piece by piece.
Your friend decided to compete with Ruger's idea, and that is what capitalism is all about, good for him. I look forward to seeing one of his rifles in action just as I looked forward to seeing a R.P.R. in action. I've spent two separate days with two separate R.P.R.s and both times they performed without one single hiccup, hitting very small targets, very far away, and doing it as quickly as the shooters could make it happen. AI mags will work in his bolt guns Not if AR mags work.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I don't know if I'd say forget the RPR, it has some things going for it you bud's rifle does not. AR triggers have never been as nice as bolt action triggers in my opinion, and the good AR triggers cost more than a good bolt action trigger. Limiting Mag length to AR mags means the barrel had better be chambered with little to no free-bore, so that shooters can tune bullet relationship to the lands wherever woks best for their load. Ruger designed an ingenious magazine well, having a rear locking mechanism for A.I. and A.W. mags while simultaneously being able to accept AR mags with their side locking recesses. I'm not putting down your friend's rifle, but I don't think Ruger deserves to be put down either. They plowed new ground with the R.P.R. giving shooters the ability to have all the bells and whistles of a P.R.S. style rifle at a more affordable cost instead of building one piece by piece.
Your friend decided to compete with Ruger's idea, and that is what capitalism is all about, good for him. I look forward to seeing one of his rifles in action just as I looked forward to seeing a R.P.R. in action. I've spent two separate days with two separate R.P.R.s and both times they performed without one single hiccup, hitting very small targets, very far away, and doing it as quickly as the shooters could make it happen. AI mags will work in his bolt guns Not if AR mags work. I just texted him and he said AI mags work in all his bolt guns. They both work in the RPR as stated above
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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An AI mag is different than various AR mags, and they both can not work at the same time. It's one or the other. Why don't you post up a web site or something or more info. I'd love to see some 1/4 moa groups from a rifle pieced together like this. In fact, I'd be the first to back this company if 1/4 moa groups were the norm for a $999 rifle with this set up. Do you really know how difficult it is for 1/4 moa groups? If you tell me 1/4 moa groups, you better have ample proof.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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There are many rifle companies that claim 1/2 moa guarantee with a rifle that costs 3x-5x more, and they have trouble getting 1/2 moa accuracy. So a $999 rifle is going to be shooting 1/4 moa groups put together with a high end barrel, chassis system with AR triggers!? Sorry if I'm not all excited, but my BS flag is half raised. So far it's internet talk. http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6290468/1
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I'm saying this because chassis systems often have bedding issues, stock AR triggers have a 100# trigger pull, AR mags have a short mag box putting the bullet further away from the rifling and lessening the chance to tighten groups, AR stocks often fit loose with some slop in them. There's a lot of factors going against 1/4 moa groups there.
Threading a barrel, quality gunsmithing work, and cost of a high end barrel will easily exceed $500-$600. That doesn't leave much room to the $999 price tag.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I'll get him to send some group pics.
I won't post the name or anything specific just yet, not until all the legalities are done.
But on the price issue, he doesnt try to make a big profit per rifle, usually averages about 50-75 each.
Most of the items are machined in house, that saves cost.
I'm sure it'll have the standard items, and can be customized from there.
But, like I mentioned earlier- any AR trigger will drop in (Giessele, Timney, CMC, etc) And those are some good triggers.
The standard stock is a folding/locked in place stock, the buffer tube adjustable AR style is an option.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I'll get him to send some group pics. Don't post 1 group of 3 shots at 100 yards that just happens to look good once. Show me several groups of 5 shot groups, and some at distance. 1- 3 shot group does not make it a 1/4 moa rifle! Do you know how many rifles I've played with that were legitimate 1/4 moa? Probably 5-10 rifles. And do you know how many rifles I shoot and play with?
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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testing has been producing 1/4"moa groups Can you please fix this ^^^^ . What is 1/4" moa? 1/4" is inches. 1/4 moa is moa. So what's 1/4" moa?
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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MOA is 1.047"
1/4 moa is .261"
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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But, like I mentioned earlier- any AR trigger will drop in (Giessele, Timney, CMC, etc) And those are some good triggers. Those are good AR triggers...they are still crap. A good trigger is a Bix N Andy or Jewell and I wasn't going to say it earlier but since Chad has broke the ice, no way he's shooting 1/4" groups consistently with an AR trigger. Most benchrest guys aren't shooting 1/4" consistently, the guns will do it but the shooter can't, unless indoors with no outside variables.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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Sorry man. But I'm starting to think this whole thread is a typo.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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An AI mag is different than an AR mag, and they both can not work at the same time. It's one or the other. That's not always the case; the RPR will take either.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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Yes, but limited AR mags. It was stated any AR mags, and would also fit an AI mag. Not possible.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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Occasionally 1/4 inch groups happen but rifles and shooters that can drive those rifles to those 1/4 inch or less groups consistently day in and day out are much less common.
Wish your friend the nest with the rifles and his business.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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An AI mag is different than an AR mag, and they both can not work at the same time. It's one or the other. Why don't you post up a web site or something or more info. I'd love to see some 1/4 moa groups from a rifle pieced together like this. In fact, I'd be the first to back this company if 1/4 moa groups were the norm for a $999 rifle with this set up. Do you really know how difficult it is for 1/4 moa groups? If you tell me 1/4 moa groups, you better have ample proof. Patent-pending multi-magazine interface functions interchangeably with AICS and M110/SR-25/DPMS/Magpul-style magazines (works with some M14 magazines).
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I'm not THAT in.... Like I said in my earlier post. I'll sit back and watch this one closely.
I did see Bergara was coming out with a new chassis gun, couple grand
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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I'm amazed some people are saying they are in already with almost no solid information about the rifle lol
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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From my previous experiences with the owner of the company, it'll be good to go
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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An AI mag is different than an AR mag, and they both can not work at the same time. It's one or the other. That's not always the case; the RPR will take either. RPR won't work with true AI brand mags. I've seen 4 that can't use a true accuracy international brand mag. Accurate mags work fine though.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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An AI mag is different than an AR mag, and they both can not work at the same time. It's one or the other. That's not always the case; the RPR will take either. RPR won't work with true AI brand mags. I've seen 4 that can't use a true accuracy international brand mag. Accurate mags work fine though. The customer that brought his RPR to my range used my A.I. mags just fine. He also used a P-Mag, and a steel mag from my LR308.
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Re: Forget the RPR, I've found what I'll be getting
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An AI mag is different than an AR mag, and they both can not work at the same time. It's one or the other. That's not always the case; the RPR will take either. RPR won't work with true AI brand mags. I've seen 4 that can't use a true accuracy international brand mag. Accurate mags work fine though. The customer that brought his RPR to my range used my A.I. mags just fine. He also used a P-Mag, and a steel mag from my LR308. These are all first run rifles so maybe that's the problem. The true AI mag are too tight. P mags worked as did the accurate and Ruger (accurate brand) but the AI's were no go in all.
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