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.223 Hog Ammo #515360 12/16/08 10:01 PM
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any suggestions on .223 ammo for hogs? remember, they are just no good swine, i don't want to spend a ton on ammo!


Re: .223 Hog Ammo [Re: BlakeJ] #515361 12/16/08 11:57 PM
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I load 60gr sieera Boat tail soft points, prolly the cheapest bullett made anymore. I've punched thru the necks on some of the bigger ones. Right behind the ear drops them everytime, you don't need a big gun to kill a pig if you hit them in front of the shoulder or gut shoot them.


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i've dropped'em with BH 75gr. with ease


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Every hog I've ever hit in or very near the ear has dropped; regardless of caliber/bullet. I killed two does using Wolf 55gr SP this year. I don't see why they wouldn't work in a pigs ear.



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Re: .223 Hog Ammo [Re: PrimitiveHunter] #515364 12/17/08 01:25 AM
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Saturday night i shot a sow over 200 lbs with Wolf 55 grain softpoint, the military classic type, like $6 a box of 20, shot her behind the shoulder, double lung, complete pass thru with my AR, she ran about 40 yards, blood trail a blind man could follow.............why spend a a crap load of cash for the so called (premium ammo) if you dont have to??

That being said I have 3 brands of ammo for my AR, some PMC, Monarch and Wolf, all 55 grain the accuracy between the 3 brands in not significant in my opinion, I have a red dot on it with no magnafication..... Now with a 20x scope? I dont know



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...give it to a homeless guy...he won't mind the stiffness
Re: .223 Hog Ammo [Re: Redneck Messiah] #515365 12/17/08 01:30 AM
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I would never shoot the steel case cartridges from my $1000 AR. I'd rather buy brass and not have it risk scratching my chamber and then spending $300 for a new barrel then save $5 a box on brass ammo.....just my opinion....


Re: .223 Hog Ammo [Re: CleanKill] #515366 12/17/08 01:37 AM
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I would never shoot the steel case cartridges from my $1000 AR. I'd rather buy brass and not have it risk scratching my chamber and then spending $300 for a new barrel then save $5 a box on brass ammo.....just my opinion....




I can understand that, but keep in mind, I will NEVER run thru the amount of ammo than our Military does on each and every one of theirs, and they ARE made will Military specs, They are a LOT tougher than you think......... But i see where your coming from



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...give it to a homeless guy...he won't mind the stiffness
Re: .223 Hog Ammo [Re: Redneck Messiah] #515367 12/17/08 01:40 AM
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Yes but our military does not use that ammo. All we use is Lake City arsenal or Black Hills, and I have never seen ANY steel cases in US military ammo. Wolf and Monarch are both made overseas. All 7.62x39 ammo is made with steel cases, but you are talking about a cheap weapon that doesn't matter if you scratch the chamber since they are cheap to replace anyway.


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I am talking about my Smith and Wesson M&P AR-15, not an AK-47, I'm not trying to get crossways with you, I know our military uses mainly lake city ammo, all I'm saying is that it is a Military weapon, designed to fire whatever you can pick up that will fit, by design.

I am not critizing your choice in ammo, all I'm stating is what i shoot thru mine. The PMC is brass, the other two (wolf and monarch) are steel..

The original post was, hog killing ammo, not wanting to spend a lot, and stated my opinion, thats all brother



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...give it to a homeless guy...he won't mind the stiffness
Re: .223 Hog Ammo [Re: Redneck Messiah] #515369 12/17/08 04:41 AM
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I use Black Hills 68 grain match HP. Three shots....three kills with my R-15.



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Re: .223 Hog Ammo [Re: TexasVine] #515370 12/17/08 05:41 AM
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so someone is afraid the shell casing is stonger than their chamber?
i dont see it.



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You would have to be shooting thousands of rounds of steel ammo to make any difference and if you can afford to shoot that much you can afford a new barrel.



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I have used hornady 75 gr BTHP: this round blew a huge entry hole and left a chunk of rib laying were I shot one hog. Other hogs I shot in the head with it dropped like a rock.

Remington 55gr HP works awesome but only used on head shots.

Federal Nosler 60gr is an amazing but pricey bullet. I shot a hog quartering to me through the head and the bullet went through the skull broke the spinal cord and exited the top of the shoulder. I shot an 8 point behind the shoulder with it a couple of weeks ago and it didnt make it 40yds with total internal devistation and a large blood trail.

Almost any round works good for head shots. I also dont use cheap ammo in my 20 BB DPMS not worth the risk.


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Redneck I'm not trying to start anything. I know the PMC is brass. All I was saying is I have never seen any steel case used b the military, except for the AK. I was in the Marine corps for 4 years in the infantry, Iraq twice, and never saw any steel cased 5.56 ammo.
All I was trying to say is why use steel ammo when you can get brass?

luv2brode, the chamber in a rifle is made from steel also, and yes it is possible for other steel to scratch it. Why do you think cleaning rods are made from brass? Because the steel ones can damage the throat of a rifle.

Wolf ammo is like 5 bucks a box. PMC or Federal American Eagle is like 6. 1 dollar difference for brass and they're both FMJs. Makes sense to me to use brass that can't possibly harm the rifle.


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luv2brode, the chamber in a rifle is made from steel also, and yes it is possible for other steel to scratch it. Why do you think cleaning rods are made from brass? Because the steel ones can damage the throat of a rifle.

i hear what you are saying but you are talking steel casings and a hardened steel chamber, also i think if a person really checked the steel used for the casings is barely steel at all.



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Nowhere in the original post does the poster mention using an AR , so steel or brass is a moot point.


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In .223 just about any ammo would do.

I use my 22-250 with a 55 gr soft point. Usually go for an ear shot and have dropped them instantly every time.



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Re: .223 Hog Ammo [Re: fun4uoc] #515377 12/19/08 10:54 PM
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j3x, no it was not mentioned in the OP, however RedneckMessiah had said in his AR he uses Wolf ammo which does have steel cases, that is why I brought it up.

All I'm trying to say people is that if a box of brass ammo is 6 dollars and a box of steel ammo is 5 dollars, why not spend the extra dollar and not have to worry about the steel at all? It makes no sense at all to me not too.


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