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speckled trout in a pond #5080835 04/21/14 03:10 PM
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3 Caught in pond with shiner and a cork, this was the smallest one, about 10". speckled trout, have any of you guys seen this before. they say it's a salt water pond ...how all by it's self?

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Re: speckled trout in a pond [Re: smokewagon84] #5080936 04/21/14 04:04 PM
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That doesn't appear to be a fresh water trout. I looks like a juvenile spotted sea trout. I have caught hundreds of them in the Gulf over the years.


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How far inland is the pond. If close to the coast then salt water percolates through the sand to inland fresh water ponds. If far inland it may be a pond located over a salt dome or deposit. The question is how did the trout get there. Probably stocked.


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Re: speckled trout in a pond [Re: smokewagon84] #5080971 04/21/14 04:24 PM
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about 25 -30 miles inland..it was flood by ike

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That explains it. Ike probably brought the fish fry and eggs to the pond as well.


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Re: speckled trout in a pond [Re: smokewagon84] #5081411 04/21/14 08:56 PM
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I agree with Geezer on this... but begs the question. Do salt water regulations apply? If so that fish is under 15' and should have been released.



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Private pond there are no "regulations".


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Originally Posted By: passthru
Private pond there are no "regulations".


Guess you're correct there. But might be a very interesting conversation with the game warden.
"You caught a mess of undersized specks from a private pond?"


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Re: speckled trout in a pond [Re: smokewagon84] #5082273 04/22/14 12:45 PM
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we did release them all three. There are four ponds in all, and this one is the only one that is salt water.

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If its a saltwater pond it must have a inlet from a bayou or brackish creeks somewere.. if not they will die soon anyway

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Crazy..

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Originally Posted By: Navasot
If its a saltwater pond it must have a inlet from a bayou or brackish creeks somewere.. if not they will die soon anyway



ike was along time ago.....if they would have died they would have died years back.


that is odd to see specks from a pond.....what other kind of fish are in there?


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If its a saltwater pond it must have a inlet from a bayou or brackish creeks somewere.. if not they will die soon anyway



ike was along time ago.....if they would have died they would have died years back.


that is odd to see specks from a pond.....what other kind of fish are in there?


we used to fish up clear creek in pearland. we would catch bass, catfish, crappie right next to mullet and blue crab


That's why i would say it has to have some type of inlet or constant flooding brakish waterway near it

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Originally Posted By: Navasot
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If its a saltwater pond it must have a inlet from a bayou or brackish creeks somewere.. if not they will die soon anyway



ike was along time ago.....if they would have died they would have died years back.


that is odd to see specks from a pond.....what other kind of fish are in there?


we used to fish up clear creek in pearland. we would catch bass, catfish, crappie right next to mullet and blue crab


That's why i would say it has to have some type of inlet or constant flooding brakish waterway near it

Back quite a few years ago we could take a post hole digger and dig a 4' corner post hole on the south end of our place in Live Oak County and it would have 2' of salt water in it in a short time. That is 70 miles north of Nueces Bay as the crow flies. We dug a tank about 1/4 from that location and at 12' deep it started to seep saltwater. Same thing in in Eastern La Salle County. We dug a couple of tanks along Quintana Creek on drainages feeding it and at 14' or so they started to seep saltwater. That was 90 miles west of Nueces Bay. We had areas along the creek that grew nothing at all due to all the salt in the soil.


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That's crazy iv been on barrier islands that even had fresh water pools or ponds on them... crazy there would be that much salt in the water that far north

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They stock redfish in fresh water lakes that survive just fine. From my understanding its the same red as at the coast. They used to stock corvina, which are a hybrid somewhat similar to specks. Sharks go up rivers etc. It may not be salt water in the tank. In brackish water I think they mix somewhat regularly. Bet they got their in the hurricane and will do fine weather it is fresh or saltwater. They may not spawn though.


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Originally Posted By: Navasot
That's crazy iv been on barrier islands that even had fresh water pools or ponds on them... crazy there would be that much salt in the water that far north

Hunted just outside of Jayton on a ranch in the late 90's and the draws and drainages had salty water in them also. Never an animal track around the holes in the creeks. Had flats that look like white salt on the neighbors ranch that was a couple of hundred acres.


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Went to a friends place somewhere around falls city this weekend and they have a well that pumps saltwater.


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Originally Posted By: redchevy
They stock redfish in fresh water lakes that survive just fine. From my understanding its the same red as at the coast. They used to stock corvina, which are a hybrid somewhat similar to specks. Sharks go up rivers etc. It may not be salt water in the tank. In brackish water I think they mix somewhat regularly. Bet they got their in the hurricane and will do fine weather it is fresh or saltwater. They may not spawn though.


Not quite the same thing.

Those reds have been acclimated to freshwater.

Trout need higher salinity to survive than species like redfish and bull sharks


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They thrive in brackish, see a lot of them (and reds) around the salt water barriers that are way further inland. The ones that have lived their entire life in it aren't as prone to dying as the concentration shifts more toward fresh from rains.

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You can catch mullet, crabs and redfish in the Brazos in Katy,Tx....so not suprised to see this.

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Hope the corps of engineers doesn't see this... We had our freshwater reservoir flood after Ike and was filled with redfish and trout. We would literally catch 150-200 fish a day. Well the corps of engineers came in and said we had two drain it or it'd be labeled as a saltwater wetland and no improvements or drilling could be done. They came in and cut our levys and all the fish were gone

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Originally Posted By: redchevy
They stock redfish in fresh water lakes that survive just fine. From my understanding its the same red as at the coast. They used to stock corvina, which are a hybrid somewhat similar to specks. Sharks go up rivers etc. It may not be salt water in the tank. In brackish water I think they mix somewhat regularly. Bet they got their in the hurricane and will do fine weather it is fresh or saltwater. They may not spawn though.


Even though they are both drum the spec is a very different fish... Not near as hardy as its scaled family members imo. Reds are nothing but a saltwater version of the goo. I just didn't think there would be that much salt that far north.. pretty cool

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Originally Posted By: Navasot
Originally Posted By: redchevy
They stock redfish in fresh water lakes that survive just fine. From my understanding its the same red as at the coast. They used to stock corvina, which are a hybrid somewhat similar to specks. Sharks go up rivers etc. It may not be salt water in the tank. In brackish water I think they mix somewhat regularly. Bet they got their in the hurricane and will do fine weather it is fresh or saltwater. They may not spawn though.


Even though they are both drum the spec is a very different fish... Not near as hardy as its scaled family members imo. Reds are nothing but a saltwater version of the goo. I just didn't think there would be that much salt that far north.. pretty cool


Not sure we are talking about the same things.


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