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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/23/14 03:22 PM
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AmoCuernos
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Read page 3 of this thread - I clearly stated that I am not saying we changed genetics - I am stating the facts of what we have done on our ranch and the results which have been dramatic - there are less mouths to feed and the mouths left feeding overall are a higher quality of deer due to intensive culling and management - I think we will continue the path we are on Whats you deer density? Do you shoot spikes? 5 points or less?
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 01:05 AM
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tlk
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Read page 3 of this thread - I clearly stated that I am not saying we changed genetics - I am stating the facts of what we have done on our ranch and the results which have been dramatic - there are less mouths to feed and the mouths left feeding overall are a higher quality of deer due to intensive culling and management - I think we will continue the path we are on Whats you deer density? Do you shoot spikes? 5 points or less? How big is your high fenced ranch?
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 01:11 AM
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tlk
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Please share your background? Biologist? Ranch manager? Breeder? Wildlife manager? Own a large ranch? Hunted South Texas for years? Just curious
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 01:51 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Please share your background? Biologist? Ranch manager? Breeder? Wildlife manager? Own a large ranch? Hunted South Texas for years? Just curious Own large ranch,
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 01:58 AM
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AmoCuernos
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Read page 3 of this thread - I clearly stated that I am not saying we changed genetics - I am stating the facts of what we have done on our ranch and the results which have been dramatic - there are less mouths to feed and the mouths left feeding overall are a higher quality of deer due to intensive culling and management - I think we will continue the path we are on Whats you deer density? Do you shoot spikes? 5 points or less? How big is your high fenced ranch? little over 4k…
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 01:59 AM
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tlk
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Please share your background? Biologist? Ranch manager? Breeder? Wildlife manager? Own a large ranch? Hunted South Texas for years? Just curious Own large ranch, Thanks just curious - HF or LF?
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
[Re: AmoCuernos]
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02/24/14 02:01 AM
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tlk
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[quote=BOBO the Clown]Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Read page 3 of this thread - I clearly stated that I am not saying we changed genetics - I am stating the facts of what we have done on our ranch and the results which have been dramatic - there are less mouths to feed and the mouths left feeding overall are a higher quality of deer due to intensive culling and management - I think we will continue the path we are on How big is your high fenced ranch? Thanks - was not on your website as to the size - looks like a nice place 4200 Thanks - your website did not say - looks like a nice place
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 02:03 AM
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AmoCuernos
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It's on the 5th or 6th line of text on the home screen.
Thanks man. Appreciate it.
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 02:04 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Read page 3 of this thread - I clearly stated that I am not saying we changed genetics - I am stating the facts of what we have done on our ranch and the results which have been dramatic - there are less mouths to feed and the mouths left feeding overall are a higher quality of deer due to intensive culling and management - I think we will continue the path we are on You're saying the same thing I've said entire thread, yet you quote me on a thread about 99% of LF ranches in texas not having the ability to change their genetics. By reply you stated you are one of the 1% that can by stating you have under gone 7 years of culling which is in its infancy as far as ability to change genetics. So you didn't read the quotes. Neither Amos or I are saying culling doesn't work to help grow big deer, it does just not for the reasoning of changing genetics. Its same basic principal of Carring capacity, ratio, and age restrictions on top end deer. Lower you are on carring capacity the more your able to gamble on deer another year, also more return on your feed bill per B/C inch. Can culling influence genetics sure but you better have a very large ranch and lots of tags, a thirst for blood and decades before you see results. There is a reason for importing and DMP pens
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 02:06 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Please share your background? Biologist? Ranch manager? Breeder? Wildlife manager? Own a large ranch? Hunted South Texas for years? Just curious Own large ranch, Thanks just curious - HF or LF? Both low fence,
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 02:07 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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It's on the 5th or 6th line of text on the home screen.
Thanks man. Appreciate it. Do you sell hunts on the other one?
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 02:10 AM
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AmoCuernos
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It's on the 5th or 6th line of text on the home screen.
Thanks man. Appreciate it. Do you sell hunts on the other one? We leased it this year.
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 02:12 AM
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tlk
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Read page 3 of this thread - I clearly stated that I am not saying we changed genetics - I am stating the facts of what we have done on our ranch and the results which have been dramatic - there are less mouths to feed and the mouths left feeding overall are a higher quality of deer due to intensive culling and management - I think we will continue the path we are on You're saying the same thing I've said entire thread, yet you quote me on a thread about 99% of LF ranches in texas not having the ability to change their genetics. By reply you stated you are one of the 1% that can by stating you have under gone 7 years of culling which is in its infancy as far as ability to change genetics. So you didn't read the quotes. Neither Amos or I are saying culling doesn't work to help grow big deer, it does just not for the reasoning of changing genetics. Its same basic principal of Carring capacity, ratio, and age restrictions on top end deer. Lower you are on carring capacity the more your able to gamble on deer another year, also more return on your feed bill per B/C inch. Can culling influence genetics sure but you better have a very large ranch and lots of tags, a thirst for blood and decades before you see results. There is a reason for importing and DMP pens You know what? You are clearly going to get the last word in no matter what - I have no problem with HF ranches - I owned one for 5 years. I simply referenced the experience we have had on a very large, South Texas, LF ranch that has produced some of the top deer in the state and I showed real results in pictures along with stating specifically what we have done the past 8 years and the huge improvement in the trophies we see and kill - simple as that. Thanks, best of luck in your endeavors, and I am moving on to other threads
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
[Re: AmoCuernos]
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02/24/14 02:14 AM
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tlk
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It's on the 5th or 6th line of text on the home screen.
Thanks man. Appreciate it. Sorry missed it on the site -
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 02:22 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Did you read those qoutes? You said your self that your in the 1% of ranches that can change the genetics? Read page 3 of this thread - I clearly stated that I am not saying we changed genetics - I am stating the facts of what we have done on our ranch and the results which have been dramatic - there are less mouths to feed and the mouths left feeding overall are a higher quality of deer due to intensive culling and management - I think we will continue the path we are on You're saying the same thing I've said entire thread, yet you quote me on a thread about 99% of LF ranches in texas not having the ability to change their genetics. By reply you stated you are one of the 1% that can by stating you have under gone 7 years of culling which is in its infancy as far as ability to change genetics. So you didn't read the quotes. Neither Amos or I are saying culling doesn't work to help grow big deer, it does just not for the reasoning of changing genetics. Its same basic principal of Carring capacity, ratio, and age restrictions on top end deer. Lower you are on carring capacity the more your able to gamble on deer another year, also more return on your feed bill per B/C inch. Can culling influence genetics sure but you better have a very large ranch and lots of tags, a thirst for blood and decades before you see results. There is a reason for importing and DMP pens You know what? You are clearly going to get the last word in no matter what - I have no problem with HF ranches - I owned one for 5 years. I simply referenced the experience we have had on a very large, South Texas, LF ranch that has produced some of the top deer in the state and I showed real results in pictures along with stating specifically what we have done the past 8 years and the huge improvement in the trophies we see and kill - simple as that. Thanks, best of luck in your endeavors, and I am moving on to other threads Wasn't trying to I just didn't understand why you qouted me on genetic, when it apparent now we are saying the same thing and actually agree
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Re: Shooting management bucks?
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02/24/14 11:54 PM
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Wasn't trying to I just didn't understand why you qouted me on genetic, when it apparent now we are saying the same thing and actually agree Can't see the forest for the trees...
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