excellent afterthought.
ar should never have been applied to
youth hunters anyway.
anything walking for kids.

Yep, and the argument that people will cheat!....Well, what else is new?
I agree, we need the kids in order to further our sport, and AR's are not the way to get it done!

It would help a lot...even with just a few culls taken each yr. Those leases that don't allow or the people don't have kids would need to take a kid hunting! I'm sure the kid would be thrilled! I hope they implement this next year!

Agree with these!

im bout as bright as a burnt out light bulb still trying ta figure out what a CULL deer is trying ta learn

it has many different meanings to many different people, could be any spike, could be only spikes >2.5yo, could be anything over 4.5 with "only" 8pts, could be anything over 3.5 with only 10pts, just depends on where you are hunting and what the herd looks like. but also dont foget the ever present "monster" that turns into a "cull" in the photo section once that ground shrinkage sinks in and the tape measure gets pulled out.

Have visited with Biologists, program directors, regional enforcement people all in the last couple of months.... not a mention of any changes

rick

great idea!

usualy the bigger the deer the more pts ya get. kinda like a guy wieghing 250lbs can drink more pts than a dude wieghing 150lbs, little guy gonna get slobbernockeled a whole lot faster.

Good idea if it is true.

As far as people will cheat...you really think they aren't already???

There is no telling how many under sized deer have been left in the woods to rot or snuck out and processed at home.

or how many "6 year olds" have 160's on the wall from youth weekend.....

I've heard rumblings about this here and on other forums and I'm all for it.

Obviously it would allow us to cull inferior genetics, but more importantly it would be far easier for youth hunters to tag a buck.

Win, win in my book.

I don't like it. I'd rather teach my kid management and rules. I'd be all for telling my kid, no, he's not old enough. I believe that teaches responsibility and understanding of the laws.

If tpwd was to make an adjustment, it needs to be a deer that is over 3.5 years old. The ar's is a age law, so I think it needs to have that exception.

I've been wanting a rule like this to hit the books since the begining.

I've been going to meetings, e-mailing, and writing P&W about this for about three years. If this is true I'm glad, but I've heard nothing about it. Some of y'all may not like me very much because I've also proposed they lower the youth age to 15. At 16 a kid can drive. I know there's no "magic" number, but if the kid can drive on a public road he/she ought to have the maturity and patience to wait for a mature deer. Just me.

If this is your opinion you could always just keep doing what you are doing. The law doesnt say the kid has to shoot the first 4 point that walks out. But, some places a kid could hunt for years and not get to shoot anything and not every kid has the patience to stick with it.

As for a age limit, it will never happen. There is no way to police or enforce it.

I take a different view, you have a cull that's only legal for a youth hunter to shoot. It becomes his/her buck to harvest what better way to teach management. I can tell you from experience, when you have to match wits with one particular deer, it becomes a trophy.

Hunted this weekend with my 13 year old. The AR bug hit him hard on a few bucks he really wanted to take. I know he'd be in for this new rule!

I'm all for relaxing the rules for kids....and then I'd define kid as anyone under the age of 100. Let each of us form our own idea of what a good or bad buck is, and don't force us to use antler size as the criteria.

I have the same issue and I am all for it.

My son killed a few deer with a gun but few years back started bow hunting sat in the stand all season with his bow and passed up tons of small bucks got bored and does not hunt any more. don't know if not being able to shoot one with his bow was the reason or not. Just saying he is not interested in going any more.