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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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10/02/13 05:58 PM
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txshntr
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How dare they think you should stop them from driving all over the lease during prime hunting time!!! Oh, the nerve
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Simple Searcher]
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10/02/13 07:57 PM
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MR5Hunter
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I have never met a single person that has said they wanted people to go target shooting by there blind during deer season. Or welcomed kids to go four wheeling by blinds and chasing rabbits around feeders before or during a hunt. It is a shame that you have to make rules to teach adults common courtesy.
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: gollygee]
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10/02/13 08:04 PM
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Csddarden
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Pretty simple on my lease: no bow hunting.
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Sniper John]
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10/03/13 03:37 AM
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7ARanch
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I would have to guess a lot of this is driven by the size of the lease. If it's large enough to give true separation it should never be an issue if it's relatively small, I would share aspects of the OP'S concerns, when I'm bow hunting, particularly during bow season I don't want to hear a bunch of weapons being fired but since I also bow hunt during gun session I expect it then. Heck it's usually my wife. I also solved all of this by buying my own place, it's small but it's mine and we have enough animals to make it interesting
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Sniper John]
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10/03/13 03:10 PM
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Junebug
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We are lucky to only have 5 people at our lease and we are all good friends. We don't have any set rules, just common sense. Two of us have kids and the others do not. I belive there is a time to ride 4 wheelers and shoot your a guns and there is a time not to. We hunt in young county where the hunting pressure seems to be high. It's bad enough where if some one rides a 4 wheeler around the place the hunting seems to be no good.
When it comes to hunting season, bow or rifle season, it is still hunting season. You have had 8 months to ride your 4 wheelers, shot your guns, hunt rabbits and other types of game, leave the other 4 months to hunt. Season will be over before you know it. Say that rifle season started first before bow season, I'm sure a lot of you rifle hunters wouldn't be to happy if a bow hunter was at the lease making a lot of noise just cause there season hadn't started yet. The op did say that after the gun shots and noise that they didn't see any more deer. I would just have a sit down and explain you ideas and see if that gets you any where. My .02
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Junebug]
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10/03/13 03:34 PM
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MACV
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I'm in with Blackcoal and Seadog.
My ducks fly backwards
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: MACV]
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10/03/13 06:02 PM
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Grosvenor
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man, I do not miss being on a lease
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Grosvenor]
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10/03/13 06:15 PM
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Chadillac
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Why not get on a lease that is restricted to nothing but bow hunting or NO shooting guns during bow season?
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Csddarden]
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10/03/13 07:21 PM
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Nogalus Prairie
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Pretty simple on my lease: no bow hunting. Pretty simple on my place too: no shooting during bow season.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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10/04/13 02:17 PM
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camartin
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we tended to do a lot more shooting than hunting on my lease as it was a "family" setup. However, there was no shooting (range right outside of camp) until all hunters were done for the morning on our tiny lease. Also, we kind of made a four wheeler track on about 2 acres right outside of our camp and the kids stuck to that and were extremely happy. We had tons of deer and as long as the shooting was in the middle of the day it bothered neither the deer or the hunters.
Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. Mark Twain
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: camartin]
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10/04/13 02:49 PM
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jwb
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very simple on our lease, No loaded guns in camp. If you pull the trigger, it better be shooting at game. Practice and sighting in will be done at home. Ten people on lease for 15 yrs and no issues with random shooting. But we don't bow hunt.
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: rofd1374]
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10/04/13 08:41 PM
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1860.colt
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squirrels used to drive me crazy, chattering, thinking they gonna scare deer away. on a lease one hunter took his .22 with to his deer stand, heard a .A22 go off, 10. Min. latter his .06, he shot a squirrel with .22 a buck with .06
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: 1860.colt]
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10/05/13 01:37 AM
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mossisland
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10 years of living in Texas and still puzzled at the anti bowhunting crowd in this state (among hunters!). Maybe if they moved the season to February? Best answers:
1) Lease the whole ranch! 2) Rules 3) Do unto others.....too bad this isn't #1
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Sniper John]
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10/06/13 01:57 AM
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Deerhunter61
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It all depends on the rules of the lease. If I was bow hunting it would annoy me but if I was the one hog hunting...well if it is not prohibited in the lease rules...
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Texas Dan]
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10/07/13 01:24 PM
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WTGuide
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You asked for opinions so I'll give you mine.
Bow hunters can be the worse for thinking that because they have an early start, the woods should belong to them and no one else. To them, it means no one should squirrel hunt or do anything that might somehow interfere with the woods being totally their own. No one should be filling feeders, creating food plots, mowing, or anything else that might mess up their hunt.
Now, having said that, I agree with you to a point. Deer camp should not be a place for shooting practice when gun ranges are available. It's as much a matter of safety as it is showing respect for landowners. After all, would you feel safe while hearing someone busting a lot of caps around your home? Still, just because you have a head start before others, that doesn't give you the right to tell everyone around you to stop what they're doing. Gun hunters face the noise that goes with shots being fired all the time. So what makes you so special? ^This^
Last edited by WTGuide; 10/07/13 01:25 PM.
Think you can/Think you can't/Either way you're right
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: WTGuide]
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10/09/13 03:09 AM
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wfhunter
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I believe you have to have written rules that everyone agrees on as a lease body. New members have to agree to the rules unless the lease body agrees to change the written rules. These rule vary as much as all the opinions on this site. Nevertheless they are agreed upon by the lease body to follow. If you do not, you have people who don't think what they are doing is wrong, or affecting others, or they simply do not care. We have had experiences with people who think the lease is their personal lease and they can do anything they want. Even the most inconsiderate actions that most commonsense people would not do. Our lease is a family lease and we are there to have fun and all get along. You want to really know someone, or how different than you they are, get on a hunting lease with them. LoL! I am a bow and gun hunter and know that shooting guns in camp, dove hunting during bow season, working on stands, etc.. etc... has no significant impact on my hunt based on 40 years in the field. Now if you have 3-4 guys on 100 acres, you probably do. Size of the lease does make a difference. Be fair and let's all have fun doing what we love. Hunting is our way of life. Good Hunting!
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: wfhunter]
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10/10/13 06:47 PM
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psycho0819
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A lot of it depends on a particular piece of of property. I have seen places where a gun shot will spook every deer in the general area, and I have seen places where deer are effected very little by the report of a gun.
I hunt a small(ish) piece of family land where there are residences on one side. I can watch deer doing their normal thing when there are kids playing on a trampoline less than 300yds away. The deer are used to a certain amount of human noise. On the other hand, my uncle who hunts the same piece of property will absolutely freak out over the least little amount of human traffic in the field while he is out hunting, let alone a gunshot coming from the camp area.
I guess it's like anything else. Personal views and idiosyncrasies dominate the course of conversation on this topic. But like I said, particular pieces of property and deer herds can be very different.
And to add, I'm glad I don't hunt a lease any more. Rules, rules, and more rules just take the fun out out of it for me. Common courtesy must always be present, don't get me wrong. But making a rule that restricts every little action that might be deemed offensive by one or more member of a lease is like our Government making a law every time someone does something to offend another citizen. It gets out of hand very quickly and the fun of hunting is lost. For those of you who don't mind all the rules, more power to you.
Tolerance is the virtue of a man without conviction.
The end of the world began the day it was created, and life is a sexually transmitted terminal disease.
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: psycho0819]
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10/11/13 06:51 PM
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Lazy L
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So you acknowledge you hunt close to camp but get mad when people make noise or shoot at camp? No one to blame but yourself.
"Hey running' buddy what'll say to a twelve pack"
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Lazy L]
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10/11/13 07:57 PM
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tShawnB
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Don't hunt on a lease with 20 other hunters. Too many people to deal with and too many rules to make, follow and break with 20 other hunters. Expect problems with this many people and don't be so surprised when it happens. Kind of like the government, the more there is the more messed up things get.
How come everybody I meet is a deer hunting expert?
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: GristleHead]
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10/11/13 11:05 PM
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OFBHWG
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What ever the rules are for gun season should be the rules for bow season neither deserve more than the other. If you don't have rules written down they don't exist!
When you need a Piano moved there is always someone around to help you with the stool!
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Texas Dan]
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10/11/13 11:11 PM
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OFBHWG
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You asked for opinions so I'll give you mine.
Bow hunters can be the worse for thinking that because they have an early start, the woods should belong to them and no one else. To them, it means no one should squirrel hunt or do anything that might somehow interfere with the woods being totally their own. No one should be filling feeders, creating food plots, mowing, or anything else that might mess up their hunt.
Now, having said that, I agree with you to a point. Deer camp should not be a place for shooting practice when gun ranges are available. It's as much a matter of safety as it is showing respect for landowners. After all, would you feel safe while hearing someone busting a lot of caps around your home? Still, just because you have a head start before others, that doesn't give you the right to tell everyone around you to stop what they're doing. Gun hunters face the noise that goes with shots being fired all the time. So what makes you so special? Should the rules for gun hunting be exactly what the rules are for bow hunting?
When you need a Piano moved there is always someone around to help you with the stool!
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: rofd1374]
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10/12/13 02:29 AM
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Buckenvy
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difference between a good Deer Lease and a Bad deer lease is the list of rules, if your lease dosn't have a list, might be why its bad for you!
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Buckenvy]
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10/12/13 04:59 AM
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Crawdaddct
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I was bow hunting the other day and was watching a doe, waiting for her to get a little closer, when shot rang out not far from me. The doe went into hiding. I went to camp and told the guys what had happen. One guy told me it was him, shooting at hogs. If people are hunting, I dont have a problem with it. Now just shooting for the heck of it, not cool.
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: Crawdaddct]
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10/14/13 05:40 PM
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gonefishing-2day
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I was bow hunting the other day and was watching a doe, waiting for her to get a little closer, when shot rang out not far from me. The doe went into hiding. I went to camp and told the guys what had happen. One guy told me it was him, shooting at hogs. If people are hunting, I dont have a problem with it. Now just shooting for the heck of it, not cool. Only one rule on my place. You see a pig and don't shoot it or at it your off my place.
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Re: Aggravated at new hunters on lease
[Re: GristleHead]
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10/14/13 05:44 PM
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4Weight
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Pretty simple on my lease: no bow hunting. Amen and two thumbs up! Now that is funny !!
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