How many run one on their mud motor. I run a 35 HP longtail go-devil and I have been tearing the crap out of my prop on some rocks. Do you loose any HP or speed. Also is it tough to install?

I know it is not tough to install as it just bolts on. Speed and HP loss I do not know. Are you hunting rivers or something? I have 15 years on a mud motor tiller and can't say I have hit many rocks. Grinding oysters, well that is another ball of wax but not rocks.

I feel your pain, I beat the hell out of mine on rocks...i've though about a rock guard before but it would probably just be something I would make before ordering one. Doubt it would be much hp loss if any.

Ain't gonna do ya much good on a longtail. Main reason being that the skegs on a longtail are too thin and all you will do is twist the skeg up on the first big impact. Shorttail motors have thicker skegs the rock guards bolt to to handle the impacts and they resist skeg bending much better. Performance loss is minimal and really helps in the rocks/gravel I sometimes run. The one MB sells is 17-4 stainless steel and is 1/4" thick. You ain't gonna hurt it no matter what you throw at it.

Where have you been Homey? Killin birds?

Yawmp...you could say we been shooting a few

Unless your skeg is 1/4" thick, it will twist/bend when struck. And a RG will only make things worse. LT's are subsurface motors with already too much metal under the surface to try and navigate thru thick weeds as well. Adding a RG will only exacerbate the situation. RG's work best with surface drives, and only surface drives

Homey, Does that 1/4" stainless plate have a bend in it to follow the skeg's bend at the end, or is it just straight?

A LT Doesn’t work or nav well in heavy veg????…I’ll have to remember that…Hmmm...
Everything can be broken and everything has limitations even the mighty Mud Buddy lol

Nice way to twist my words

I, like many others, ran longtails for years before the shortys came out. So yeah, I know what I speak. Longtails do fine in veggies once up and moving straight. Trying to turn in thick smartweed, Johnson grass or hydrilla is another story. It's like doing a ball room dance in the back of the boat with your left arm getting ripped off from time to time. With a subsurface cav plate already grabbing grass/vegetation, the addition of a rock guard is only on a make it worse to turn thru thick veggies. The subject here was rock guards, scooter. But if you want to measure peters on who knows more about mm's and what they will/won't do I'll be happy to oblige you.

FTR, ain't nothing wrong with a longtail mm. They are just more limiting than a shorty in most situations. But excel when a longer outdrive is needed to reach down and get a bite at times. But back to the original question, a rock guard on a longtail skeg is about as useful as teets on a boar hog.

It is straight and does not counter the factory bends purpose of offsetting surface drive tiller torque. You'll never know it is even on there when running open water. The only difference in performance is that when running across a skinny (4-5") hard sand flat or rocky riffle that it will be dragging across it and you will feel it. But that is just the guard doing its job of protecting the prop. Speedwise there is no change in open water and maybe a mph loss when dragging the guard across sand.

Wal- yes the river we run is nothing but rock and does some major damage.

Homey- thanks for the input. The rock guard on go-devil is only forty bucks so I might still try it and if I dont see a change or it being a disadvantage I will take it off.

No that’s ok I’ll let you measure all the peters,toms,dicks and harries…Not my thing but have at it...JK I'm just board with nothing to do...Have a great week and good luck this Sat..
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