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mechanical vs fixed blades
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11/10/12 04:52 PM
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JMalin
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Do mechanical hold a better/tighter group than fixed blades? I've got some 100 grain magnus stinger broadheads and I can't shoot better than a 3-4 inch group at twenty yards. Bow is in tune and tears a bullet hole in paper. My field points are much tighter 1-2 inch with arrows touching often. Does my bow just not like the magnus? Could another brand of fixed blade shoot better? Should I give mechanical blades a shot?
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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#3745176
11/11/12 04:52 PM
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SNAFU
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i just shot some magnus blades for first time....man they dropped something bad!! I wanna try the Slick Trick myself, look pretty tough
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#3746402
11/12/12 12:17 AM
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ju993rnaut
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I picked up some 100gr QAD Exodus Broadheads with the swept blades and they shoot with my field points. Now if I could only stick somthing with them.
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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11/12/12 02:41 AM
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I switched from mechanical to fixed a few years ago and don't have any complaints.
However, my 23 year old son shot a hog today with some kind of mechanical that someone gave him and the thing dang near gutted the hog on the way out. The thing only went about 20 yards. I don't even know what type of mechanical it was, but I was impressed.
Mathews Z7 Bow for Whitetail and Hogs Remington R-15 .223 REM for predators I also like to "hunt" sporting clays with my Benelli SuperSport!
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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11/12/12 03:01 AM
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I have tried many broad heads but I keep going back to what I started with muzzy's bad to the bone!
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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11/12/12 03:14 AM
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CHRIS1981
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prefer fixed blades i shoot Crimson Talon's..
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#3747663
11/12/12 01:39 PM
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I've been shooting QAD Exodus 100 gr. fixed broadheads. They shoot like my field points and all three deer I've shot with them died quickly. I would like to try Slick Trick 4 blades. That's what I was going to get when I got sidetracked with the Exodus.
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11/12/12 04:12 PM
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I have been using the Rage since they came out. I do not have a single complaint with them. They fly great.
-john
Time to catch a hog..........
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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#3748365
11/12/12 05:41 PM
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Blood Trail
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If your using Magnus, line up the blades vertical with the cockfeather. Makes the world of difference
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11/13/12 03:01 AM
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Slick Trick 100gr Magnum for me.
“I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately...”
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#3750639
11/13/12 04:05 AM
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THETEXAN
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SLick Tricks are Fantastic ! Slick Trick Magnums Viper Trick Griz trick all are 4 blade broadheads. Fly like field points exept Griz Trick. Delivers Massive Punch and Holes.
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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#3750671
11/13/12 04:15 AM
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txshntr
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Spitfires. Probably won't ever shoot anything else.
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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#3753878
11/14/12 02:30 AM
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OUTDOORSMAN81
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Here is the reality on this subject. The planing that comes from most fixed blade broad heads is actually due to a low FOC. the lower the FOC the lower the resistance is to wind sheer. Therefore the slightest adjustment in angle from archers paradox will allow for the arrow to start planing. With out getting into the science of it all, We conducted a bunch of tests with several perfectly tuned setups and even some poorly tuned setups. We found that if you have a FOC that is 16% or higher your fixed blade no matter the size will shoot in the same spot as your field points. This usually means that you will have to change your arrow. but you will also increase penetration and lethality of your setup, in addition your arrow will be more durable. As we all know two holes kills better than one and I have never heard of a bow hunter losing an animal because of to much penetration. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
"Don’t design a broadhead for when everything goes right, design a broadhead for when everything goes wrong." Dr. Ashby
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11/14/12 09:32 PM
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That's a good point about FOC.
In my experience some setups just don't like certain broadheads, either they are really sensitive to archer's mistakes, or they consistantly fly to one direction. Try some different heads, first place I'll go is with a lower-profile head, but I'm not sure there's a hard and fast rule. I've had bow setups that hated one particular design, and others that loved that same design. I typically go pretty heavy on my arrows, but never paid much attention to FOC. I've got montecs and spitfires tuned into my primary setup that impact the same spot out to 60yrds, like them both, just tend to prefer the montecs on bigger critters.
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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11/14/12 10:40 PM
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OUTDOORSMAN81
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Txnrog, You mentioned your arrows are pretty heavy. What is the total weight that you are shooting?
"Don’t design a broadhead for when everything goes right, design a broadhead for when everything goes wrong." Dr. Ashby
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11/14/12 10:45 PM
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Txnrog
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550gr in my compound.
675gr in my recurve, but never had flight issues with those lawn darts
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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#3756998
11/15/12 12:22 AM
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I think either are fine for deer. Perhaps fixed for larger game?
I shoot Vortex 100 grain and have a lot of confidence in them. They shoot like my field points.
My boy is going to use them on his new Parker Challenger crossbow.
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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11/15/12 03:43 PM
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I think either are fine for deer. Perhaps fixed for larger game?
I shoot Vortex 100 grain and have a lot of confidence in them. They shoot like my field points.
My boy is going to use them on his new Parker Challenger crossbow. Mechs are fine for even larger game. I've shot red hartebeest, elk, wildebeest, zebra, and a few others with spitfires and excellent results. The key is to make sure you have enough momentum (weight) behind them. They will loose energy on impact, and cause issues at the marginal ranges of the energy spectrum for the game you are chasing. Generally don't recommend for kids or women's rigs for the same reasons I'll never use them on my trad bows.
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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#3759126
11/15/12 06:00 PM
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redchevy
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I have always shot 100 grain shuttle t's or T' locks.
Always fixed blade for me.
It's hell eatin em live
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11/19/12 07:42 PM
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Fixed bladed broadheads that only have two blades will ALOT of times plane out of a FASTER BOW.
Guns dont kill people.....bullets do.
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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#3772576
11/20/12 02:58 PM
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I've got Ulmer Edges and Grizz Tricks in my quiver. Shot a bobcat with an Ulmer Edge and it worked perfectly.
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11/21/12 12:40 PM
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Re: mechanical vs fixed blades
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#3783239
11/24/12 03:21 PM
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Buglemintoday
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I've been using mechanicals for a few years now and I love them. Never had an issue with them coming apart.
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