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No more ballistic tip #2848907 12/18/11 02:57 PM
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Looking for input on new bullet for REM 700. Hornady, Corelock, ??



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Re: No more ballistic tip [Re: Daddyboy] #2848910 12/18/11 02:58 PM
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Ok what caliber? Why not the ballistic tip?


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Originally Posted By: wp75169
Ok what caliber? Why not the ballistic tip?

Uh, What he said confused2




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what game u hunting also. whitetail at 100yds and bullet selection is alot bigger than mule deer or elk at 300.. nosler accubond is awesome.. more bullet than u have to have for 100 yd whitetails tho...


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.270 and Whitetail and 150 yds or less. Shot 2 this season and have been kill shots and ran off. After long track looks like thru and thru shot no expansion. Both shots 110-120 yards.



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Re: No more ballistic tip [Re: Daddyboy] #2850328 12/19/11 12:04 AM
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Accubond's those things are Thor's hammer on game.



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Re: No more ballistic tip [Re: dee] #2850406 12/19/11 12:31 AM
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for deer at 150 yards or less, I pick up a box of 130gr Win Power Points, and a box of 130gr Rem Core Lokts and use whichever shoots best. Bot have been doing a great job on deer for decades. No need for super-bullets in a 270 for whitetails in Tex.


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i dont really care for ballistic tips either. im worried about over expansion tho. i loaded 140 ballistic tip for my dad in 7mm. 150 yd shot on mule deer and bullet turned inside out and lodged in hide on far side. i think it would be fine for whitetail tho..


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are you reloading or buying loaded rounds?


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Accubonds are a great alternative to ballistic tips if you like the plastic tips


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I've found the Winchester Ballistic Tip ammo to be a little inaccurate in my guns. I like the Hornady red tipped rounds though. I think they're varmint rounds.


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Originally Posted By: Team By-god
are you reloading or buying loaded rounds?


Buying.



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Re: No more ballistic tip [Re: jeepercreeper] #2850776 12/19/11 02:16 AM
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I shoot 130 gr Barnes Triple shock in my 270. Never had a deer go over 20 yds.



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Originally Posted By: Daddyboy
.270 and Whitetail and 150 yds or less. Shot 2 this season and have been kill shots and ran off. After long track looks like thru and thru shot no expansion. Both shots 110-120 yards.


Were you able to recover either deer and verify that there was little or no expansion? A Ballistic Tip from a .270 should be a bomb at 120 yds. And, it's hard to diagnose a bullet failure without a thorough autopsy, IMO.

And, I assume you checked your rifle on a target to make sure it is shooting where you aim it. Scope and action screws are tight?

Not flaming, but I am skeptical that a Ballistic Tip in the boiler room of a whitetail failed to bring your deer to bag.



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Re: No more ballistic tip [Re: txbigly] #2850904 12/19/11 02:43 AM
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If you are shooting 150 yards or less, theres really no point in spending the extra money for "high performance" rounds like SST's or bonded ballistic point. A 130gr Rem Corelokt is all you need. .



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.270 and Whitetail and 150 yds or less. Shot 2 this season and have been kill shots and ran off. After long track looks like thru and thru shot no expansion. Both shots 110-120 yards.


Were you able to recover either deer and verify that there was little or no expansion? A Ballistic Tip from a .270 should be a bomb at 120 yds. And, it's hard to diagnose a bullet failure without a thorough autopsy, IMO.

And, I assume you checked your rifle on a target to make sure it is shooting where you aim it. Scope and action screws are tight?

Not flaming, but I am skeptical that a Ballistic Tip in the boiler room of a whitetail failed to bring your deer to bag.


Yes, thet were recovered.



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Originally Posted By: Nathan at Fork
If you are shooting 150 yards or less, theres really no point in spending the extra money for "high performance" rounds like SST's or bonded ballistic point. A 130gr Rem Corelokt is all you need. .


Seems to be the consensus, thanks



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I'm certainly not denying the core lokts and silver tipped bullets have been working great for many decades. Either one of those, or a Sierra Game King or Pro Hunter are extremely effective bullets on medium game at average yardages. I run Gamekings thru my 708 still.

But I'll jump on that Accubond bandwagon too. I have yet to have one stay in an animal, and every one has left a nasty hole when it exited. That's deer and pigs alike. For a premium bullet, I'm sold on them.



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if you cant recover a deer shot with a high powered rifle using any , and i mean any bullet hang it up and take up golf.




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Originally Posted By: JJH
for deer at 150 yards or less, I pick up a box of 130gr Win Power Points, and a box of 130gr Rem Core Lokts and use whichever shoots best. Bot have been doing a great job on deer for decades. No need for super-bullets in a 270 for whitetails in Tex.
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Originally Posted By: vanguard
if you cant recover a deer shot with a high powered rifle using any , and i mean any bullet hang it up and take up golf.


could we modify that statement slightly, to exclude bullets designed for varmints. For example,I'd not be real comfy using say, a 55gr VMax @ 4000fps from my 243, for south Texas trophy whitetails or west Texas mulies.


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Got a 9 point this weekend. Range was about 92 yards. .257 Weatherby, 115 ballistic tip. He was dead before he hit the ground.
Everything blown up behind shoulder, massive amount of internal damage, bullet ripped through other shoulder and is probably still going. Perfect shot-no chasing.


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if you cant recover a deer shot with a high powered rifle using any , and i mean any bullet hang it up and take up golf.


could we modify that statement slightly, to exclude bullets designed for varmints. For example,I'd not be real comfy using say, a 55gr VMax @ 4000fps from my 243, for south Texas trophy whitetails or west Texas mulies.


I seen that exact load smash through a 6 point buck, straight through like butter, I regularly kill them with a 45grer out of a 22 hornet.
I take that back it was win 55gr BT factory load not the v max, same thing though


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KISS... Keep It Simple Stupid. .270 out to 300yds, not a dang thing wrong with just a plain ol lead core- loc.



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Originally Posted By: Boomer57
KISS... Keep It Simple Stupid. .270 out to 300yds, not a dang thing wrong with just a plain ol lead core- loc.


Nor is there anything wrong with a plain ol' Ballistic Tip.

I've shot a number of whitetails with the 140 BT/.284 and 100 BT/.257 (and possibly a few hogs too, although I can't recall this for certain). I also made one shot kills on a west Texas aoudad at 285 yds and a Wyoming bighorn ram at 364 yds, both with the 140 BT from a .284 Winchester. On deer and sheep-sized game, I can't imagine a more sudden killer than a Ballistic Tip. Now, for much larger game, I would lean toward a tougher bullet like an Accubond or Partition.

Perhaps the OP ran into a poorly-made lot of bullets that failed to expand like BT's are famously known to do. I would call Nosler on their 800 number in Oregon and explain the misfortune. Have the box of ammo and the lot # with you. I would be surprised if Nosler wouldn't send the OP at least 2 boxes in exchange. Nosler might even substitute Accubonds, should the OP desire.

Lastly, it never hurts to recheck your rifle and shooting technique. Again, I'm not flaming, having been guilty myself of many faux pas incidents over a half-century of hunting. What was the velocity of that load? I just can't picture a BT not expanding on a whitetail fairly hit at 120 yds from a .270.



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