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wild dogs
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11/05/11 10:45 PM
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kagomez85
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Shoot em or let them walk? I have a entire pack on my place and deer activity has stopped got probably 50 pics of them around my feeder. Do they mess with deer?
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Re: wild dogs
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11/05/11 10:47 PM
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notamtchance
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Yes, shoot them. And yes, they mess with deer.
If I'm not hunting something I must be dead.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/05/11 10:58 PM
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They'll run a deer to death..... them on sight!!!
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Re: wild dogs
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11/05/11 11:07 PM
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Re: wild dogs
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11/05/11 11:13 PM
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Re: wild dogs
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11/05/11 11:19 PM
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kagomez85
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I just dropped one about ten to go
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 02:56 AM
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echoman8
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Yea shoot. They are worse than coyotes on wildlife and livestock. If possible, try to get the leader.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 02:59 AM
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Not only will they run the deer they will eat the fawns! Open season on them anytime you can.
Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.
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11/06/11 03:08 AM
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 03:42 AM
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Big Will
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CHOOT EM ELIZABETH CHOOT EM
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 03:55 AM
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My but does shooting dogs (stray or not) mean you broke the law? If so then you admitted on an open forum you broke the law. Need a get out of jail free card?
Psalm 3:3 - But you, O LORD, are a shield around me; you are my glory, the one who holds my head high.
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11/06/11 04:13 AM
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No laws against shooting dogs that I can think of. I do it all the time. For whatever reason, the road leading to where I hunt is a local drop point for unwanted pets. I've probably shot 200 cats and dogs over the past 10 years.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 05:27 AM
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txshntr
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No laws against shooting dogs that I can think of. I do it all the time. For whatever reason, the road leading to where I hunt is a local drop point for unwanted pets. I've probably shot 200 cats and dogs over the past 10 years. In Texas it is illegal to shoot strays unless they are in the act of, or have been seen attacking livestock. There was a thread not too long ago about this. I will see if I can find it, because the portion of the law pertaining to this was quoted in it.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 05:37 AM
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Here you go...last paragraph 822.013. Dogs or Coyotes That Attack Animals
(a) A dog or coyote that is attacking, is about to attack, or has recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowls may be killed by:
(1) any person witnessing the attack; or
(2) the attacked animal's owner or a person acting on behalf of the owner if the owner or person has knowledge of the attack.
(b) A person who kills a dog or coyote as provided by this section is not liable for damages to the owner, keeper, or person in control of the dog or coyote.
(c) A person who discovers on the person's property a dog or coyote known or suspected of having killed livestock, domestic animals, or fowls may detain or impound the dog or coyote and return it to its owner or deliver the dog or coyote to the local animal control authority. The owner of the dog or coyote is liable for all costs incurred in the capture and care of the dog or coyote and all damage done by the dog or coyote.
(d) The owner, keeper, or person in control of a dog or coyote that is known to have attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowls shall control the dog or coyote in a manner approved by the local animal control authority.
(e) A person is not required to acquire a hunting license under Section 42.002, Parks and Wildlife Code, to kill a dog or coyote under this section. ----------------------------- Shooting “stray” Dogs and Cats (Penal Code 42.09 Animal Cruelty). Any person who shoots a non-livestock animal, which includes any stray or feral cat or dog, and a wild living creature previously captured, can be charged with a felony offense. Penal Code 42.092 of the State of Texas law states that a person must have the owner’s consent to kill the animal (exceptions to prosecution are provided in Section 42.092(e)(1)). It is clear that a “stray” dog or cat either has no owner or that the person who shoots the animal did not get the owner’s consent.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 07:29 AM
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shoot it anyway, whos gonna find out. put a highfence on your ranch and then you have "livestock" at risk
I will get off in a little bit
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Re: wild dogs
[Re: shark 25-06]
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11/06/11 02:16 PM
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I think the distinction should be made between lost and stray dogs, to full out feral. Once they start moving in packs and operating like true wild animals, they should be considered non-game exotic fur bearers.
My opinion. And prove who shot if you can find it.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 02:50 PM
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Here you go...last paragraph 822.013. Dogs or Coyotes That Attack Animals
(a) A dog or coyote that is attacking, is about to attack, or has recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowls may be killed by:
(1) any person witnessing the attack; or
(2) the attacked animal's owner or a person acting on behalf of the owner if the owner or person has knowledge of the attack.
(b) A person who kills a dog or coyote as provided by this section is not liable for damages to the owner, keeper, or person in control of the dog or coyote.
(c) A person who discovers on the person's property a dog or coyote known or suspected of having killed livestock, domestic animals, or fowls may detain or impound the dog or coyote and return it to its owner or deliver the dog or coyote to the local animal control authority. The owner of the dog or coyote is liable for all costs incurred in the capture and care of the dog or coyote and all damage done by the dog or coyote.
(d) The owner, keeper, or person in control of a dog or coyote that is known to have attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowls shall control the dog or coyote in a manner approved by the local animal control authority.
(e) A person is not required to acquire a hunting license under Section 42.002, Parks and Wildlife Code, to kill a dog or coyote under this section. ----------------------------- Shooting “stray” Dogs and Cats (Penal Code 42.09 Animal Cruelty). Any person who shoots a non-livestock animal, which includes any stray or feral cat or dog, and a wild living creature previously captured, can be charged with a felony offense. Penal Code 42.092 of the State of Texas law states that a person must have the owner’s consent to kill the animal (exceptions to prosecution are provided in Section 42.092(e)(1)). It is clear that a “stray” dog or cat either has no owner or that the person who shoots the animal did not get the owner’s consent. What about an animal that was born in the wild and not "previously captured?" How could you proved that it was or wasn't born in the wild unless it had tags on it.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 03:21 PM
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matej
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shoot em all and let the buzzards pick their bones.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 03:27 PM
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stxranchman
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What wild dogs?
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 07:14 PM
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I also have cows on my place so really not to concerned with this ridiculous law, but I squealed a coyote call and this thing came running out of the woods nose is the air on the hunt, they are definitely feral.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 07:32 PM
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Just had a deal with dogs and called the sheriffs out.I like dogs and have hog dogs and collared and name and rabie tags on them.Neighbor lets dogs run loose chase horses and gets in trash.I dont like it but told them after their dogs came and jumped on mine and mine was on a chain,I dont want to but will shoot to kill if it happens again.Well my goat got killed by two of their dogs and i called the shriff to cover my butt when i shoot one or both.They said i have every right to protect my property and animals on my land.We are also a leash county.I shot one after throwing sticks at it and wouldnt leave so dont have to worry about him or getting in trouble.Hate to see a dog owner be so stupid.
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11/06/11 09:44 PM
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Billy, I'm from over your way but live in the Hill Country near Bandera. I raise and train dogs and have most of my life. I know that you need to protect yourself, family, and property. I find it unfortunate that so many people make this so hard on most of us. Remember anyone can be sued, so shoot, shovel, and shutup. These sheepherders over here are the reason I don't have hounds anymore...and mine were broke to death....You couldn't make one trash or mess with livestock, and I keep them all kenneled or on a chain....Don
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 10:48 PM
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Here you go...last paragraph 822.013. Dogs or Coyotes That Attack Animals
(a) A dog or coyote that is attacking, is about to attack, or has recently attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowls may be killed by:
(1) any person witnessing the attack; or
(2) the attacked animal's owner or a person acting on behalf of the owner if the owner or person has knowledge of the attack.
(b) A person who kills a dog or coyote as provided by this section is not liable for damages to the owner, keeper, or person in control of the dog or coyote.
(c) A person who discovers on the person's property a dog or coyote known or suspected of having killed livestock, domestic animals, or fowls may detain or impound the dog or coyote and return it to its owner or deliver the dog or coyote to the local animal control authority. The owner of the dog or coyote is liable for all costs incurred in the capture and care of the dog or coyote and all damage done by the dog or coyote.
(d) The owner, keeper, or person in control of a dog or coyote that is known to have attacked livestock, domestic animals, or fowls shall control the dog or coyote in a manner approved by the local animal control authority.
(e) A person is not required to acquire a hunting license under Section 42.002, Parks and Wildlife Code, to kill a dog or coyote under this section. ----------------------------- Shooting “stray” Dogs and Cats (Penal Code 42.09 Animal Cruelty). Any person who shoots a non-livestock animal, which includes any stray or feral cat or dog, and a wild living creature previously captured, can be charged with a felony offense. Penal Code 42.092 of the State of Texas law states that a person must have the owner’s consent to kill the animal (exceptions to prosecution are provided in Section 42.092(e)(1)). It is clear that a “stray” dog or cat either has no owner or that the person who shoots the animal did not get the owner’s consent. That law is not what you think it is. If you read the entire statute, it makes no sense and could hardly be applied to shooting a wild dog or cat on your land.
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Re: wild dogs
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11/06/11 11:04 PM
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txshntr
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Pretty sure the last paragraph specifically calls out "a stray cat or dog"...but it doesn't apply
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