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 Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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04/12/11 04:04 AM
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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#2239853
04/12/11 04:06 AM
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All three combined works for me 
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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04/12/11 04:11 AM
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Rhodes 520
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All three combined works for me You can't go wrong with that combo 
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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04/12/11 04:13 AM
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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04/12/11 04:15 AM
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gogburn
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I like tall tines on a wide rack with lots of mass.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: 8Point]
#2239863
04/12/11 04:15 AM
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Tine length.... Saw a typ 10 that sported awesome tiine length and I've wanted to shoot one similar ever since.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: gogburn]
#2239868
04/12/11 04:17 AM
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I like tall tines on a wide rack with lots of mass. 
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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#2239869
04/12/11 04:18 AM
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Closed Traverse
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Big wide tall massive racks..... but i like width more than anything.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: rifleman]
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04/12/11 04:21 AM
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Tine length.... Saw a typ 10 that sported awesome tiine length and I've wanted to shoot one similar ever since.  Like this 
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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#2239884
04/12/11 04:30 AM
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KWood_TSU
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On scoring deer, since they are measuring the antlers, why do they take spread since that is only air. I think they should take a mass measurement on each tine at the halfway point, and get rid of spread. If you've ever messed around with this, it is very close to same score as with spread. Seems more logical to me.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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04/12/11 04:34 AM
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I agree but the air sure can make em look good if there is enough of it!
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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#2239893
04/12/11 04:36 AM
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KWood_TSU
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I agree but the air sure can make em look good if there is enough of it! Very true, we had an 8 point with 23" spread, and he looked awesome. Then one of the deer on the ranch the year before i got there had a 27" spread.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: KWood_TSU]
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04/12/11 04:50 AM
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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#2240031
04/12/11 11:29 AM
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stxranchman
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On average in a final score on typical bucks the tine length is 40% of the final score, the main beams are around 30%, mass is around 20% and the inside spread is 10%. I like mass and tine length since the spread is only a 10% factor in the final score of a deer but the first thing you see. Tine length and number of tines is the thing I look for first, but when you can add in 40" of mass on a deer it will hide tine length. I am into realestate and not air space.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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04/12/11 11:30 AM
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stxranchman
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Tine length.... Saw a typ 10 that sported awesome tiine length and I've wanted to shoot one similar ever since. Like this Northern Deer
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: stxranchman]
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04/12/11 11:56 AM
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Preacher Ed
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Mass and that which is not mentioned because it is not part of making a rack score high and that is character.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: stxranchman]
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04/12/11 12:34 PM
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Tine length.... Saw a typ 10 that sported awesome tiine length and I've wanted to shoot one similar ever since. Like this Northern Deer Southern if your in oklahoma
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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04/12/11 12:46 PM
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AmoCuernos
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People never talk about the real key to high scoring deer.
I wouldn't pick any of those 3. I would pick long beams. Long beams usually mean that the deer is wider (longer beams have to go somewhere). The only way deer with short beams get wide is if they start to go straight off the head. This is the shape that when they look at you you can see all the points.
It's also a lot easier to be a 10 or 12 point if you have enough room for a g-4 or g-5.
Last edited by AmoCuernos; 04/12/11 12:47 PM.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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#2240142
04/12/11 01:04 PM
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 this one had a little bit of air, mass, and long beams. 
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
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04/12/11 01:40 PM
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Tine length.... Saw a typ 10 that sported awesome tiine length and I've wanted to shoot one similar ever since. Like this Similar... One I put my hands on was a 190" with only about 1.5" of deductions. Monster of a 4.5yo
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: stxranchman]
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04/12/11 02:06 PM
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Justin T
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On average in a final score on typical bucks the tine length is 40% of the final score, the main beams are around 30%, mass is around 20% and the inside spread is 10%. I like mass and tine length since the spread is only a 10% factor in the final score of a deer but the first thing you see. Tine length and number of tines is the thing I look for first, but when you can add in 40" of mass on a deer it will hide tine length. I am into realestate and not air space. I like the air space. I think it makes for an impressive mount. Don't mind some good real estate though.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: Justin T]
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04/12/11 02:13 PM
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I like the long tines. Long G2s and G3s. I also like the wavy tines. The look like fire. 
Last edited by catchin'; 04/12/11 02:14 PM.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: rifleman]
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04/12/11 02:14 PM
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Tine length.... Saw a typ 10 that sported awesome tiine length and I've wanted to shoot one similar ever since. 
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: rifleman]
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04/12/11 02:15 PM
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Life is Good Today.
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Re: Mass vs. Width vs. Tines etc.
[Re: rifleman]
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04/12/11 02:58 PM
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