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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: kmon11] #1998507 01/09/11 04:32 PM
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Schmidt & Bender is being used by USMC snipers now, after comparing 25 different scopes.



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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: kmon11] #1998522 01/09/11 04:35 PM
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Just make sure it has at least 4 knobs. Cause that's what snipers use. I'd try to find one w/ 5 or more knobs.


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: kmon11] #1998589 01/09/11 04:44 PM
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Yep Kahles is good glass


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: BMD] #1998600 01/09/11 04:46 PM
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Lol too many knobs


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: BMD] #1998692 01/09/11 05:03 PM
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Leupy beats them all on their upper end...the way I figure it...you can get 2 for the price of 1. 2 rifles, 1 scope = no bueno stir


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: rifleman] #1998720 01/09/11 05:07 PM
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I haev a Leupold Mark 4, So I'm pretty sure that means they are the best.

My vote also goes to Leupold. That's how it works right?


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: dieselgeek] #1998785 01/09/11 05:16 PM
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BMD, the Vortex spokesperson is going to be upset with you since they didn't make the title...just sayin' grin


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: rifleman] #2000460 01/09/11 07:20 PM
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Lol prolly right how could I have forgotten


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: BMD] #2000551 01/09/11 07:39 PM
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Bushnell looks like a t ball bats on top of the gun


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: Brother in-law] #2001123 01/09/11 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
Bushnell looks like a t ball bats on top of the gun


Not as ugly as a Pentax, and a new Leupold aka Loopy will never be on another rifle I own.



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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: kmon11] #2001155 01/09/11 09:16 PM
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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: dieselgeek] #2001171 01/09/11 09:19 PM
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that thing looks like it would go in a hamster cage.


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: rifleman] #2001409 01/09/11 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: rifleman
that thing looks like it would go in a hamster cage.


You could drag your rifle behind you upside down.


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: Dude Lebowski] #2002261 01/10/11 12:58 AM
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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: Dude Lebowski] #2002262 01/10/11 12:59 AM
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Overall S&B but the value choice is Zeiss. Of the others only Swaro belongs in the same class.


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: Sami] #2002276 01/10/11 01:02 AM
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Swaro is my choice smile


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: BMD] #2002483 01/10/11 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: BMD
Swaro is my choice smile


Of course, you're a Remington guy so you don't know any better! bolt


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: Sami] #2002493 01/10/11 01:36 AM
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Lol, s&b will be prolly my next one for daughters custom, that should make u happy other than it will based on Remington action rofl


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: BMD] #2002562 01/10/11 01:45 AM
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Nah, won't make me happy but I bet it will make her! To be honest, Z6i 2.5-15x56 might be my next scope but it will be sitting on a Sako, not some stinking Remington!


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: Sami] #2002612 01/10/11 01:53 AM
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1 in.. scopes Swaro ah, zeiss conquest, vortex viper...in that order


30mm..s&b,zeiss, swaro... close your eyes and pick one



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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: BOBO the Clown] #2003270 01/10/11 04:05 AM
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Elite 6500 for the money and clarity and durability will get my vote until i find something better which i havnt done yet



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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: jkmccoy11] #2003569 01/10/11 06:16 AM
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Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: Birdog62] #2003573 01/10/11 06:24 AM
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Wait a second, I just placed an order for 2.5-16x50mm Bushnell Elite 6500's...so they must be the best! Couldn't resist the price, $574.99 shipped plus I got $75 in Amazon GC's. 30mm tube and all, now I don't need night vision!!! banana


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: Sami] #2004867 01/10/11 06:44 PM
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I have a Kalhes CL 3-10x50 which I love
having said that, I think a S&B I have been testing has nicer glass than Kahles, ever so slightly

Really, S&B, Kahles, Swaro, Ziess are all a step above optically from Nightforce, USO, IOR, etc..

2 steps above a top of the line Leupold, Nikon, etc..

Between the top 4 I would say get the one that has the features you want and preferably test back to back into very low light.

I recently tested a Kalhes CSX 1.5-6x42 directly against the S&B of the same spec.

The Kalhes was as bright into very, very low light but the S&B had better resolution, meaning for a deer hunter, a set of horns could be better evaluated at last light.

Now, to someone elses eyes, they may feel the opposite..
A good reason to test with your eyes and NOT in a gun store.

Another thing to factor in is how eye friendly the scope is, to me, some are just "easier" to get a good image fast


Re: Swarovski vs Zeiss vs Schmidt and Bender vs US Optics vs Nightforce vs Kahles vs Leupold vs ???? [Re: ccoker] #2007570 01/11/11 04:15 AM
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I would put S&B, US Optics, Zeiss Hensolt and Nightforce in the ring for the better built scopes. Everything else including Swarovski,Kahles and Leupold pale in an overall comparison ( quality of glass, tracking, ruggedness)


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