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Re: matches....? [Re: psycho0819] #1481811 06/15/10 09:55 PM
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I'll make it there if I can.



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My Dad and I are looking for a .22 or rimfire bench rest match in the dallas/Ft.Worth area. If anyone knows of any I would like to know...


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Why not try a Postal Shoot?

Basically you take an agreed-upon target, tape it over a copy of that day's newspaper (for the date) and shoot your groups. Leave the target and newspaper together and mail it to the organizer, who measures the groups to determine the winner. You can have centerfire, rimfire, open sights, or just best group with whatever.



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Why not try a Postal Shoot?

Basically you take an agreed-upon target, tape it over a copy of that day's newspaper (for the date) and shoot your groups. Leave the target and newspaper together and mail it to the organizer, who measures the groups to determine the winner. You can have centerfire, rimfire, open sights, or just best group with whatever.


Excellent idea!! Have a due date and specified info to be included, like range, caliber, load, type of rifle, barrel length, etc.



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Here is how a postal match is done on a different forum I am a member of. We could modify this, I suppose. But I don't see why you would.

Special Note: Rules for STS Rimfire Class are exactly the same as those below, only the range is 50yds. Any rimfire may be used. You may get a maximum of 4 targets for centerfire and 4 targets for rimfire, if you so desire.

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ENTRY & FEES:

Targets Desired Pay by Check Pay by Paypal Pay by Gearpay
1 3.50 4.30 3.50
2 7.00 7.80 7.00
3 10.50 11.30 10.50
4 14.00 14.80 14.00
5 17.50 18.50 17.50
6 21.00 22.00 21.00
7 24.50 25.50 24.50
8 28.00 29.00 28.00

-This gives you at most 4 tries at your best target in each class -- SEND ME BACK YOUR ONE BEST TARGET!

If neither CENTERFIRE, nor RIMFIRE class is specified with your entry, you will get CENTERFIRE marked targets. RIMFIRE targets will be marked differently and meant to only be used for the RIMFIRE class.

If no "handle" or "forum ID" is included with your entry, I will post your results using your first name and last initial (i.e. "John D").

The first batch of targets will go out to you on the day of the entry deadline. The rest go out as soon as the entry shows up in the mail.

PAYMENT:

I would prefer registration fees as a personal check, money orders are an unnecessary expense.

You can also pay via Paypal.com if you wish. Please see the CONTACT page for details.

Please see the CONTACT page for entry details.


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DEADLINES:

Deadlines for the current match will be posted on the homepage and on the match calendar.

The deadlines are "postmarked" deadlines, meaning as long as the postmark is on or before that date, the targets/entries will be accepted. Please adhere to the entry and return deadlines to help me out on this end.

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FIRING PROCEDURE:

Targets are shot FROM THE GROUND at 100 yards only (Rimfire class is 50 yards). This means you can shoot prone or sitting if you choose.

***The target(s) will come folded in thirds with the center section (1" CBS* , 30-ring, and smiley) facing out.

The targets MUST STAY FOLDED as I send it until the first shot is fired at the center CBS circle. - MAKE SURE YOU ONLY POST 1 TARGET AT A TIME THOUGH, AND ONLY SHOOT THE CBS CIRCLE, AS THERE WILL BE SEVERAL FOLDED TOGETHER IF YOU REQUEST MORE THAN ONE TARGET!!

***The first shot and ONLY THE FIRST SHOT is to be fired at the ring marked "CBS" -you will denote on the back of the target whether or not it was a true CBS* (see definition below).

AFTER you shoot your CBS* you must walk out to the backstop and unfold the target. It will now have 3 holes in it from your first shot.

- This will show that the second shot was not taken directly after the first because the target needed unfolded before firing the second shot. This also adds a bit of stress and makes you disturb our position

***PLEASE CIRCLE OR OTHERWISE MARK THE HOLES FROM THE CBS* SHOT

NOW, the target is unfolded and still mounted at 100yds. Shoot the rest of the circles and smiley (and the confidence shot* if you choose to) at your convenience.

***You can shoot your REQUIRED 3-SHOT GROUP* at any time, in any order after the target is opened up.

Don't forget you CONFIDENCE SHOT* !!! (defined below)

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REST/EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS:

ALLOWED: Bipod/rucksack/sandbags/beanbags and Accu-shot monopods, beanbags, and bunny-ear bags MAY be used in the rear

NOT ALLOWED: mechanical/tripod style bench rests (front or rear), including but not limited to Hart/Sinclair/Bald Eagle/Protector/Hoppe's/Caldwell etc. - IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS EMAIL ME

***THERE ARE NO CALIBER OR WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS***

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SCORING:


The points below reflect the value for a hit (breaking the circle) -


approximate size----: Point Value
2"------------------------5
1.3"---------------------10
1.1"---------------------15 (CBS)
0.5" ---------------------25
0.4" ---------------------30
smily = 1/4"-------------40 (50 for a wipeout* )


***There is a 5-point bonus if the bullet is completely inside the white inner circle (or for a center wipeout* on the smaller circles)

***Also an added bonus for hitting the other strategically placed smilies.

*** 3-SHOT GROUP SCORING

Groups over 1-inch will not affect your score at all.

Your group size will be subtracted from 1" and multiplied by 100 to give you the value added to your score

EXAMPLE:

Group = 0.750"

Difference from 1" = 0.250"

0.250 x 100 = 25

So a 0.5" group would add 50pts, 0.25" group would add 75pts etc.

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TERMS AND DEFINITIONS:

*CBS: (Cold Bore Shot) concerning your FIRST SHOT at the "CBS" circle on the target. To be an honest "true CBS" this must be the first shot from the gun THAT DAY. The gun MAY be fouled and sighted in the prior day, but if you are claiming a CBS, it must be the first shot that day. A TRUE CBS IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT IS A BETTER TEST OF PERSONAL AND EQUIPMENT ABILITIES.

*3-SHOT GROUP:

--fire ONLY 3 shots at the diamond aiming point at any time after the target is unfolded

*CONFIDENCE SHOT: (OPTIONAL -- ONE SHOT ONLY!!):

--This can be fired any time after you unfold the target (after the CBS) YOU MUST HAVE ALREADY HIT THE CIRCLE/SMILEY YOU ARE GOING AFTER WITH THE CONFIDENCE SHOT. The confidence shot is ONE ROUND fired at whatever circle you are sure you can hit a second time - if you miss the chosen circle with this shot, you loose ALL the points for THAT CIRCLE.

THIS SHOT IS NOT REQUIRED-ONLY TAKE IT IF YOU ARE CONFIDENT YOU CAN CONNECT.

*WIPEOUT: complete removal of the smiley shown with a caliber sized scoring ring.This can be done with a 22 caliber bullet.

*TIEBREAKERS: Tiebreakers will be figured by the most central CBS on the "CBS" aimpoint. (since the cold bore shot is most important to the tactical shooter) then after that ties will be determined by 3-shot group size.

*The circle around the 40pt smily is UN-SCORED, it is only an aiming aid for lower magnification scopes



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Re: matches....? [Re: J.G.] #1494470 06/23/10 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Here is how a postal match is done on a different forum I am a member of. We could modify this, I suppose. But I don't see why you would.



Other than the fact that it's way too detailed - takes a lot of the fun out of it.



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Here is how a postal match is done on a different forum I am a member of. We could modify this, I suppose. But I don't see why you would.



Other than the fact that it's way too detailed - takes a lot of the fun out of it.


Could you explain what is too detailed about it? It seems to me that it is a competition to see who can hit the targets on the same piece of paper as well as who can shoot the tightest group. This is as detailed as it is to prevent anyone, that is a competitor, from believing they got cheated.



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you guys go ahead. sounds like alot are in for it. i know i started all this, but i was looking to meet folks, cus and discuss...maybe even learn a thing or two from someone my elder or just better. like hunting, campfire time is as fun as the hunt...almost.


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you guys go ahead. sounds like alot are in for it. i know i started all this, but i was looking to meet folks, cus and discuss...maybe even learn a thing or two from someone my elder or just better. like hunting, campfire time is as fun as the hunt...almost.


You are right. A FTF range session would be a lot more fun.



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you guys go ahead. sounds like alot are in for it. i know i started all this, but i was looking to meet folks, cus and discuss...maybe even learn a thing or two from someone my elder or just better. like hunting, campfire time is as fun as the hunt...almost.


You are right. A FTF range session would be a lot more fun.


I agree, I would rather do a FTF range session as well. Someone brought up a postal match and I was simply trying to help. Why couldn't we have a postal match going on all year AND meet up to cus, discuss, and learn from each other from time to time?



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you guys go ahead. sounds like alot are in for it. i know i started all this, but i was looking to meet folks, cus and discuss...maybe even learn a thing or two from someone my elder or just better. like hunting, campfire time is as fun as the hunt...almost.


You are right. A FTF range session would be a lot more fun.


I agree, I would rather do a FTF range session as well. Someone brought up a postal match and I was simply trying to help. Why couldn't we have a postal match going on all year AND meet up to cus, discuss, and learn from each other from time to time?


I like it. up



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I like it. up [/quote]

What? Doing bofum?



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Sure, both would be fun.



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Hey Kyle, We scheduled our next match for the last saturday in July. I emailed you a flyer at the start of this topic. Ill try to post here in the A.M.


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Sponsored By: The North Texas Pistol league
Date: Sunday, July 31st
Spanish Fort, Texas*
Signup 8:00- 9:00 AM. $20.00 Entry Fee. Shooters meeting and match to follow.
*Spanish Fort- 17 miles North of Nocona, Texas on FM103 to Bonnie Mitchell Road South 2 miles then follow signs.
Prizes will be awarded to the top 3 shooters.

last match we had 40+ shooters and finished at 2:00. It will be hot. Let me know if anyone wants to go and ill give you my cell in case you get lost.

General Rules
1. Four relays 10 rds.
2. Targets will be at 250 yds.
3. There will be multiple targets on the target board for the hunter class. Open class will have only the 60 mm clays
120 mm clays – 1 point
60 mm clays – 1 point
There will be sight in targets for the first round.
4. Shooters will be allowed, per relay 10 rounds at your position and 10 minutes to shoot them. Any sighters will be out of those 10 rounds.
5. You will need 40 rounds for the match plus any to sight in.
6. Most points at the end of the day wins.
7. The number of small and large clays in that order will break ties. If a tie cannot be broken by this method each shooter will be allowed 1 shot. The closest to the center wins.
8. Range officer and scorekeeper will have final say in scoring.
9. There will be a five min. sight in before the 1st relay
10. Shooters will provide their own bench, rest, bags, mats etc.
11. No loaded guns allowed except on the line when line is hot. Actions shall be open at all times.
12. No alcohol during the match or shooters under the influence.

Rules for Hunter Class

No factory custom guns (Remington 40x, Savage F, Cooper, Christian Arms, Jarrett) etc.
Must have factory action-barrel with factory stamping.
Must be .30cal. Or less
Modifications allowed – bedding, triggers adjustable or replacement and recrowning.
Max barrel diameter of .990 and length of 26 inch.
No limit on sights.
Hand loads are allowed and encouraged.
No one piece rest or vices.
Sporterized military rifle’s barrel diameter can’t exceed .670

Open Class rules
.35 cal or less
No rail guns or return to battery.
No one piece rest or vices.
No limit on sights


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686...that sounds like FUN! I'm a shotgunner so not really set up to do the rifle stuff. Might someday, ya never know...



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686 thats fairly close to me I'll try and find time to come next month.Do hunter class and open class shoot at the same time or are they seperate.


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There are 16 lanes usually mixed hunter and open.


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There are plenty of benches there, if you have some type of shade you will want to bring it.


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Do you have to shoot off the benches or is prone an option.



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There are some that shoot prone. I will mow the coastal before the match you may want something to lay on.


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Good deal Since its a bit of a ways in advance I'll see if the wife can watch the baby or if I need to arrange someone too.



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FiremanJG I was out of town last week, I have a few buddies that want to come out and setup something also when we decide to get it going I'll send you a pm, I dont want a big competition just fun shooting.



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FiremanJG I was out of town last week, I have a few buddies that want to come out and setup something also when we decide to get it going I'll send you a pm, I dont want a big competition just fun shooting.


I completly understand. I was thinking of a few guys from the THF, and that's it. Since it's your place you put the limit on the number of people you want out there. First come, first serve. I'll look for the PM.



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There are some that shoot prone. I will mow the coastal before the match you may want something to lay on.


I'll be shooting prone, so that'll help a bunch. By the way, I hunt with a Savage 10FLCP .308. Can I enter hunter class with that rifle?



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