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Re: 25-06 or 257 Weatherby... other options
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02/24/24 11:54 PM
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I plugged in the numbers from Nosler’s 110 grain 30-06 load data and got 1.1” high at 100 when zeroed for 200, and 5.8” low at 300.
So the question becomes, what happens to a 110 grain 30 cal bullet moving 3,400 fps? Something in my gut tells me you better keep it off the shoulder 😂
If you keep this up you are gonna make me buy a .270. I think the real problem with the load data is almost everything is tested in a 24” barrel, and the .25-06 likes a 26” barrel. .270 is much better in a handy 22” gun. I went through this process some years ago and I almost bought a .270. Started off looking at the 6.5-300 and got on THF, one thing led to another lol. Then life probably happened and my fun money went out to pay for life, or something. I don’t recall exactly.
Today? I would probably do a 26” or 28” .25-06 and roll my own if I went through that process. There are people out there pushing it and getting suprising results.
But I went through my own process again recently and settled on 16” .358 winchester. Opposite opposite opposite.
Last edited by Bryan C. Heimann; 02/24/24 11:58 PM.
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Re: 25-06 or 257 Weatherby... other options
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02/25/24 12:21 AM
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I plugged in the numbers from Nosler’s 110 grain 30-06 load data and got 1.1” high at 100 when zeroed for 200, and 5.8” low at 300.
So the question becomes, what happens to a 110 grain 30 cal bullet moving 3,400 fps? Something in my gut tells me you better keep it off the shoulder 😂
If you keep this up you are gonna make me buy a .270. I think the real problem with the load data is almost everything is tested in a 24” barrel, and the .25-06 likes a 26” barrel. .270 is much better in a handy 22” gun. I went through this process some years ago and I almost bought a .270. Started off looking at the 6.5-300 and got on THF, one thing led to another lol. Then life probably happened and my fun money went out to pay for life, or something. I don’t recall exactly.
Today? I would probably do a 26” or 28” .25-06 and roll my own if I went through that process. There are people out there pushing it and getting suprising results.
But I went through my own process again recently and settled on 16” .358 winchester. Opposite opposite opposite. One guy I know it says the 30 ought 6 moving at that speed drops them like lightning, but I have not used it myself. I'm a firm believer f it ain't a 30-06 it really doesn't matter anyway
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Re: 25-06 or 257 Weatherby... other options
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02/25/24 12:36 AM
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Thanks for the info Bobo! Any time, congrats and welcome to the .25 bore club!!
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Re: 25-06 or 257 Weatherby... other options
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02/25/24 12:36 AM
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I plugged in the numbers from Nosler’s 110 grain 30-06 load data and got 1.1” high at 100 when zeroed for 200, and 5.8” low at 300.
So the question becomes, what happens to a 110 grain 30 cal bullet moving 3,400 fps? Something in my gut tells me you better keep it off the shoulder 😂
If you keep this up you are gonna make me buy a .270. I think the real problem with the load data is almost everything is tested in a 24” barrel, and the .25-06 likes a 26” barrel. .270 is much better in a handy 22” gun. I went through this process some years ago and I almost bought a .270. Started off looking at the 6.5-300 and got on THF, one thing led to another lol. Then life probably happened and my fun money went out to pay for life, or something. I don’t recall exactly.
Today? I would probably do a 26” or 28” .25-06 and roll my own if I went through that process. There are people out there pushing it and getting suprising results.
But I went through my own process again recently and settled on 16” .358 winchester. Opposite opposite opposite. One guy I know it says the 30 ought 6 moving at that speed drops them like lightning, but I have not used it myself. I'm a firm believer f it ain't a 30-06 it really doesn't matter anyway I think a .25-06 is a heck of a round and nothing else with less than 12 foot-pounds of recoil comes close inside 300 yards. But right now I am at .308 winchester because it’s good enough for anything and always available. One thing i learned in the last 5 years living in an ammo desert is that I need a .308. Also building the .358 winchester whenever the project rifle finally arrives. And sure, you can find data on flatter shooting loads for this and that and the other but if you re gonna walk in to the store and choose from what is available, well if trajectory and recoil matters to you .25-06 is a real good pick. I have never seen a 110 grain 30-06 load on the shelf. I am pretty sure there are people loading an 87 grain 25-06 to 3800-3900 fps with a 26 or 28 inch barrel. Pretty sure that would do nicely with a barnes x or something. Or it might have been 25-06 AI, who knows. Never claimed to be an expert, i read the same stuff you do.
Last edited by Bryan C. Heimann; 02/25/24 12:38 AM.
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Re: 25-06 or 257 Weatherby... other options
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02/25/24 04:43 AM
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Weatherby 257 Factory 87's show 3850. Best I've seen for the 25-06 is around 3500 and that's no slouch. For me 3500 fps is the Magic number, any thing beyond that is just gravy.
Yes! A Weatherby does kill them deader.
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Re: 25-06 or 257 Weatherby... other options
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02/25/24 04:54 AM
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I plugged in the numbers from Nosler’s 110 grain 30-06 load data and got 1.1” high at 100 when zeroed for 200, and 5.8” low at 300.
So the question becomes, what happens to a 110 grain 30 cal bullet moving 3,400 fps? Something in my gut tells me you better keep it off the shoulder 😂
If you keep this up you are gonna make me buy a .270. I think the real problem with the load data is almost everything is tested in a 24” barrel, and the .25-06 likes a 26” barrel. .270 is much better in a handy 22” gun. I went through this process some years ago and I almost bought a .270. Started off looking at the 6.5-300 and got on THF, one thing led to another lol. Then life probably happened and my fun money went out to pay for life, or something. I don’t recall exactly.
Today? I would probably do a 26” or 28” .25-06 and roll my own if I went through that process. There are people out there pushing it and getting suprising results.
But I went through my own process again recently and settled on 16” .358 winchester. Opposite opposite opposite. One guy I know it says the 30 ought 6 moving at that speed drops them like lightning, but I have not used it myself. I'm a firm believer f it ain't a 30-06 it really doesn't matter anyway I think a .25-06 is a heck of a round and nothing else with less than 12 foot-pounds of recoil comes close inside 300 yards. But right now I am at .308 winchester because it’s good enough for anything and always available. One thing i learned in the last 5 years living in an ammo desert is that I need a .308. Also building the .358 winchester whenever the project rifle finally arrives. And sure, you can find data on flatter shooting loads for this and that and the other but if you re gonna walk in to the store and choose from what is available, well if trajectory and recoil matters to you .25-06 is a real good pick. I have never seen a 110 grain 30-06 load on the shelf. I am pretty sure there are people loading an 87 grain 25-06 to 3800-3900 fps with a 26 or 28 inch barrel. Pretty sure that would do nicely with a barnes x or something. Or it might have been 25-06 AI, who knows. Never claimed to be an expert, i read the same stuff you do. 257 wby 26” barrel and 80 gr TTSX was 3880 with accuracy node at 3810. If you take 25-06 w/87 gr as high or higher, I think you are pushing into compressed loads
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Re: 25-06 or 257 Weatherby... other options
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02/25/24 08:34 AM
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Re: 25-06 or 257 Weatherby... other options
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02/26/24 04:00 PM
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.25-06 is much more affordable to shoot even if you reload.
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