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Re: SUPER BOWL, official? [Re: BOBO the Clown] #9004444 02/12/24 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BOBO the Clown
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Except for the extra point miss.


you mean blocked

7 field goals top three 55, 53 and 57……
not to mention Moody put it through uprights on atleast two kickoffs





I think putting it between the uprights should be 1 point. Damn impressive

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Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie. And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall

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I think they said “he” was at fault by kicking it too low and turning his foot; maybe I heard that wrong? I saw on another site where they were blaming him and not just a lineman for the block. Would have changed plays/time in the game or maybe not; KC I flat good.

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Originally Posted by Huntmaster
I think they said “he” was at fault by kicking it too low and turning his foot; maybe I heard that wrong? I saw on another site where they were blaming him and not just a lineman for the block. Would have changed plays/time in the game or maybe not; KC I flat good.


ok. you still have 3 kicking records broken in one game but sure


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No doubt about that; but I’m thinking if SF would have had a guy that rushed for 400 yards, but lost the game…that guy would trade the 400 for a ring along with all his teammates. Nobody will talk to the kicker about his long kicks; he will spend the rest of his life on the miss. But, but, they really could kick, especially kickoffs.

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Originally Posted by BDB
Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie.
And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall


In OT if you receive the ball first and score a touchdown you win, the opposing team does not even get a chance to match the TD, that is why you always elect to receive the ball first!


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Originally Posted by Stub
Originally Posted by BDB
Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie.
And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall


In OT if you receive the ball first and score a touchdown you win, the opposing team does not even get a chance to match the TD, that is why you always elect to receive the ball first!



Not true.

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Stub. That is not right in the playoffs. Both teams get a chance to possess the ball. It is just like the game starts over. Now after both teams get the ball once if the game is still tied the next score wins.


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Originally Posted by Stub
Originally Posted by BDB
Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie.
And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall


In OT if you receive the ball first and score a touchdown you win, the opposing team does not even get a chance to match the TD, that is why you always elect to receive the ball first!

Fail, kind Sir. Not true in today's world.

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Originally Posted by Stub
Originally Posted by BDB
Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie.
And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall


In OT if you receive the ball first and score a touchdown you win, the opposing team does not even get a chance to match the TD, that is why you always elect to receive the ball first!

Not any more, they changed the rule so that both teams get a possession which I think is how it should be.


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Originally Posted by MeanGreen85
Originally Posted by Stub
Originally Posted by BDB
Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie.
And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall


In OT if you receive the ball first and score a touchdown you win, the opposing team does not even get a chance to match the TD, that is why you always elect to receive the ball first!



Not true.


Had to look it up. What I said was true for the regular season overtime rules, did not know they had different OT rules for the playoffs.
It is easy to see why the players and I were confused about the rules.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-overtime-rules/

OVERTIME RULES FOR NFL REGULAR SEASON
At the end of regulation, the referee will toss a coin to determine which team will possess the ball first in overtime. The visiting team captain will call the toss.

No more than one 10-minute period will follow a three-minute intermission. Each team must possess, or have the opportunity to possess, the ball.
The exception: if the team that gets the ball first scores a touchdown on the opening possession.

Sudden death play — where the game ends on any score (safety, field goal or touchdown) — continues until a winner is determined.

Each team gets two timeouts.

The point after try is not attempted if the game ends on a touchdown.

If the score is still tied at the end of the overtime period, the result of the game will be recorded as a tie.

There are no instant replay coach’s challenges; all reviews will be initiated by the replay official.

OVERTIME RULES FOR NFL POSTSEASON GAMES

Unlike regular season games, postseason games cannot end in a tie, so the overtime rules change slightly for the playoffs.

If the score is still tied at the end of an overtime period — or if the second team’s initial possession has not ended — the teams will play another overtime period. Play will continue regardless of how many overtime periods are needed for a winner to be determined.

There will be a two-minute intermission between each overtime period. There will not be a halftime intermission after the second period.

The captain who lost the first overtime coin toss will either choose to possess the ball or select which goal his team will defend, unless the team that won the coin toss deferred that choice.

Each team will have an opportunity to possess the ball in overtime. (I think they should have verbiage in there that states "Unlike regular season OT, the game does not end automatically if the team with the first possession scores a TD")

Each team gets three timeouts during a half.

The same timing rules that apply at the end of the second and fourth regulation periods also apply at the end of a second or fourth overtime period.

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Re: SUPER BOWL, official? [Re: Huntmaster] #9004585 02/12/24 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Huntmaster
No doubt about that; but I’m thinking if SF would have had a guy that rushed for 400 yards, but lost the game…that guy would trade the 400 for a ring along with all his teammates. Nobody will talk to the kicker about his long kicks; he will spend the rest of his life on the miss. But, but, they really could kick, especially kickoffs.


Im thinking if you are putting FG points up from record distances by both teams, that means Defenses are doing a hell of a job. 7 FG goal with 3 over 50 is crazy, but a testament to defensive coachs getting both squads dialed in. With that said the biggest testament is faith in a kicker to keep them in the game. 21pts in FG is a ton especially with almost 1/2 being over 50


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Originally Posted by Stub
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Originally Posted by Stub
Originally Posted by BDB
Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie.
And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall


In OT if you receive the ball first and score a touchdown you win, the opposing team does not even get a chance to match the TD, that is why you always elect to receive the ball first!



Not true.


Had to look it up. What I said was true for the regular season overtime rules, did not know they had different OT rules for the playoffs.
It is easy to see why the players and I were confused about the rules.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-overtime-rules/

OVERTIME RULES FOR NFL REGULAR SEASON
At the end of regulation, the referee will toss a coin to determine which team will possess the ball first in overtime. The visiting team captain will call the toss.

No more than one 10-minute period will follow a three-minute intermission. Each team must possess, or have the opportunity to possess, the ball.
The exception: if the team that gets the ball first scores a touchdown on the opening possession.

Sudden death play — where the game ends on any score (safety, field goal or touchdown) — continues until a winner is determined.

Each team gets two timeouts.

The point after try is not attempted if the game ends on a touchdown.

If the score is still tied at the end of the overtime period, the result of the game will be recorded as a tie.

There are no instant replay coach’s challenges; all reviews will be initiated by the replay official.

OVERTIME RULES FOR NFL POSTSEASON GAMES

Unlike regular season games, postseason games cannot end in a tie, so the overtime rules change slightly for the playoffs.

If the score is still tied at the end of an overtime period — or if the second team’s initial possession has not ended — the teams will play another overtime period. Play will continue regardless of how many overtime periods are needed for a winner to be determined.

There will be a two-minute intermission between each overtime period. There will not be a halftime intermission after the second period.

The captain who lost the first overtime coin toss will either choose to possess the ball or select which goal his team will defend, unless the team that won the coin toss deferred that choice.

Each team will have an opportunity to possess the ball in overtime. I think they should have verbiage in there that states "Unlike regular season OT, if the game does not end automatically if the team with the first possession scores a TD"

Each team gets three timeouts during a half.

The same timing rules that apply at the end of the second and fourth regulation periods also apply at the end of a second or fourth overtime period.

Stub, first year of the OT rules change for playoffs so you get a pass. I was unaware of the change myself but you and I don't play in the NFL. Niners made a big tactical error taking the ball first.

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YOU TAKE THE BALL FIRST. You score and hold the Chiefs on their possession you win, game over.

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rules changed back in early 22 but first SB OT since them

Since its an equal procession OT, Its not much of an advantage or disadvantage. If your Offense is hot may be best to take ball before they cool off and vise versa

Only advantage is second procession team knows if they have to go for it on 4th or kick a FG.

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I heard KC had already planned to go for 2 and win in event Niners had ball first and scored a TD with extra point. Most would elect to go 2nd and know what they need to do to either tie or win. Plus they'd inherently always have 4th downs to do that with inside of time limitations.

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two things- two wrongs here. Reid and Kelce.

Reid is very close with both Mahomes and Kelce. He hasnt drawn a hard enough line.

second being Kelce didnt channel well, and crossed a dotted line. very very bad look

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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
I heard KC had already planned to go for 2 and win in event Niners had ball first and scored a TD with extra point. Most would elect to go 2nd and know what they need to do to either tie or win. Plus they'd inherently always have 4th downs to do that with inside of time limitations.


I was sort of surprised that KC settled for the field goal in regulation rather than going for the TD and the win.


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Originally Posted by Stub
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Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie.
And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall


In OT if you receive the ball first and score a touchdown you win, the opposing team does not even get a chance to match the TD, that is why you always elect to receive the ball first!




You obviously have been "coached" by the Frisco coaches lol

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cant wait for the meme with taylor swifts head replacing Reids.


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YOU TAKE THE BALL FIRST. You score and hold the Chiefs on their possession you win, game over.


Wrong…

You kick off first, that way you know what you have to do. That’s a huge advantage knowing if you need to score a FG, TD or can punt.


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Multiple 49ers players admitted after the game that the team never prepared for or discussed the new OT rules. The Chiefs said they had been prepared for playoff OT rules since training camp.

Shanahan is an excellent coach, but he was unprepared and it possibly cost them the Super Bowl. SF definitely should have kicked off instead of taking the ball.

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Originally Posted by DQ Kid
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Andy Reid was the best coach on that field. niners defense changed up scheme in the 4th and actually made things simple for mahomie.
And why on lord would you choose ball first in OT? The niners players were saying after the game they didn't even know the the dam rules lol.

So many "what ifs" can be said about a game....bottom line if no bs bad call by zebras are made to influence game (none were in this game) the winner earns it. What SF did or didn't do, it all don't mean chit. I can't stand anything in Cali so I was pulling for the chiefs, maybe cause my sons hs team (Mesquite Poteet) beat Mahomie and Whitehouse in the playoffs his senior year.

Great game overall


In OT if you receive the ball first and score a touchdown you win, the opposing team does not even get a chance to match the TD, that is why you always elect to receive the ball first!



Had to look it up. What I said was true for the regular season overtime rules, did not know they had different OT rules for the playoffs.
It is easy to see why the players and I were confused about the rules.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-overtime-rules/

OVERTIME RULES FOR NFL REGULAR SEASON
At the end of regulation, the referee will toss a coin to determine which team will possess the ball first in overtime. The visiting team captain will call the toss.

No more than one 10-minute period will follow a three-minute intermission. Each team must possess, or have the opportunity to possess, the ball.
The exception: if the team that gets the ball first scores a touchdown on the opening possession.

Sudden death play — where the game ends on any score (safety, field goal or touchdown) — continues until a winner is determined.

Each team gets two timeouts.

The point after try is not attempted if the game ends on a touchdown.

If the score is still tied at the end of the overtime period, the result of the game will be recorded as a tie.

There are no instant replay coach’s challenges; all reviews will be initiated by the replay official.

OVERTIME RULES FOR NFL POSTSEASON GAMES

Unlike regular season games, postseason games cannot end in a tie, so the overtime rules change slightly for the playoffs.

If the score is still tied at the end of an overtime period — or if the second team’s initial possession has not ended — the teams will play another overtime period. Play will continue regardless of how many overtime periods are needed for a winner to be determined.

There will be a two-minute intermission between each overtime period. There will not be a halftime intermission after the second period.

The captain who lost the first overtime coin toss will either choose to possess the ball or select which goal his team will defend, unless the team that won the coin toss deferred that choice.

Each team will have an opportunity to possess the ball in overtime. I think they should have verbiage in there that states "Unlike regular season OT, if the game does not end automatically if the team with the first possession scores a TD"

Each team gets three timeouts during a half.

The same timing rules that apply at the end of the second and fourth regulation periods also apply at the end of a second or fourth overtime period.


Stub, first year of the OT rules change for playoffs so you get a pass. I was unaware of the change myself but you and I don't play in the NFL. Niners made a big tactical error taking the ball first.


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