Forums46
Topics538,380
Posts9,736,446
Members87,084
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
History wise, where did Christianity begin?
#8999113
02/03/24 07:25 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,832
TurkeyHunter
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,832 |
History wise, where did Christianity begin?
This is not a debate but rather a discussion. How did it all come about? What are your thoughts on the subject of how it all began?
To be determined
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999116
02/03/24 08:27 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,655
Sneaky
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 29,655 |
It started with Christ’s teachings. Specifically, when He did away with the old law and started the new.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999128
02/03/24 12:20 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,227
71Rcode
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,227 |
I agree with sneaky. Might even add it was on the day Christ was born. Praise the Lord!
NRA Life Member & GOA Member Always interested in Marlins. Let me know what you have for sale!
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: Sneaky]
#8999164
02/03/24 02:31 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 19,161
TCM3
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 19,161 |
It started with Christ’s teachings. Specifically, when He did away with the old law and started the new.
Do not forget to entertain strangers, For by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels Hebrews 13:2 (R-TX)
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: 71Rcode]
#8999175
02/03/24 02:43 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 32,012
txtrophy85
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 32,012 |
I agree with sneaky. Might even add it was on the day Christ was born. Praise the Lord! I start the chapter at the birth of Christ
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999194
02/03/24 03:12 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 29,042
Western
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 29,042 |
Unusual question you usually don't here out side of class or a seminary. Been some years, but the term "Christian" originated in the old city of Antioch, in what is currently Syria. Forgot the current name and would have to look it up. It was a major travel city in eastern rome and Apostle Paul and Barnabas went there teaching during a few of their travels, several other Apostles also taught there in their travels. ((Acts 11:26 ( I had to google that as I didn't recall the verse off hand)
IMO, The knew belief eventually called "Christian/Christianity" Started after the death of Christ and with his redemption of all, including "gentiles" This was one of the main points A. Paul preached,ie, Jesus has risen and his blood was for all through faith in Jesus Christ in simple form. This message contrasted greatly with the then main pagan roman populace and also the Pharasees and saducees and jewish teachings prior.
If at first you dont succeed, then skydiving is not for you..
"Don't trust everything you read on the Internet"- Abraham Lincoln Dennis
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999196
02/03/24 03:14 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 29,042
Western
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 29,042 |
btw, there was also another "Antioch" that was also visited by A Paul, it was a much smaller, rural town
If at first you dont succeed, then skydiving is not for you..
"Don't trust everything you read on the Internet"- Abraham Lincoln Dennis
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: Western]
#8999207
02/03/24 03:26 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 33,425
bigbob_ftw
Big Sprocket Bob
|
Big Sprocket Bob
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 33,425 |
Unusual question you usually don't here out side of class or a seminary. Been some years, but the term "Christian" originated in the old city of Antioch, in what is currently Syria. Forgot the current name and would have to look it up. It was a major travel city in eastern rome and Apostle Paul and Barnabas went there teaching during a few of their travels, several other Apostles also taught there in their travels. ((Acts 11:26 ( I had to google that as I didn't recall the verse off hand)
IMO, The knew belief eventually called "Christian/Christianity" Started after the death of Christ and with his redemption of all, including "gentiles" This was one of the main points A. Paul preached,ie, Jesus has risen and his blood was for all through faith in Jesus Christ in simple form. This message contrasted greatly with the then main pagan roman populace and also the Pharasees and saducees and jewish teachings prior. This.
Ultra MAGA '24.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: Western]
#8999238
02/03/24 04:27 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 18,568
ducknbass
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 18,568 |
Unusual question you usually don't here out side of class or a seminary. Been some years, but the term "Christian" originated in the old city of Antioch, in what is currently Syria. Forgot the current name and would have to look it up. It was a major travel city in eastern rome and Apostle Paul and Barnabas went there teaching during a few of their travels, several other Apostles also taught there in their travels. ((Acts 11:26 ( I had to google that as I didn't recall the verse off hand)
IMO, The knew belief eventually called "Christian/Christianity" Started after the death of Christ and with his redemption of all, including "gentiles" This was one of the main points A. Paul preached,ie, Jesus has risen and his blood was for all through faith in Jesus Christ in simple form. This message contrasted greatly with the then main pagan roman populace and also the Pharasees and saducees and jewish teachings prior. This, Acts is where this information can be studied. When the Holy Spirit came upon believers.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999246
02/03/24 04:35 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,958
unclebubba
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,958 |
Christianity began when Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter and said You are my Rock. Upon this rock I will build my church. That is not an exact quote, and I don't have time to go look up the exact verse. But I would say that moment was the birth of the Christian Church.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: unclebubba]
#8999450
02/03/24 11:51 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,374
jsteve
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,374 |
Christianity began when Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter and said You are my Rock. Upon this rock I will build my church. That is not an exact quote, and I don't have time to go look up the exact verse. But I would say that moment was the birth of the Christian Church. Said He will build His church. It began in Acts 2. Also, read Hebrews 9:16-28 as to the why. Jesus Himself lived and died under the old covenant.
Last edited by jsteve; 02/03/24 11:52 PM.
2 Thessalonians 1:6-10 In these verses, there are dire consequences for NOT obeying the gospel. What the world claims as "saved" isn't gonna cut it! Learn what it is, in an eye opening true story, "Muscle and a Shovel", by Michael Shank.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999454
02/04/24 12:02 AM
|
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 25,344
Creekrunner
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 25,344 |
Western hit it outa the park. Much respect.
Our Savior came not to abolish the old Law, but to fulfill it. Don't neglect the Old Testament. Tough, confusing passage. We all fall terribly short. 'Doesn't mean we should ignore it.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999479
02/04/24 12:49 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 11,040
Texas buckeye
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 11,040 |
Interesting topic, mainly because the history is pretty solid on Jesus’ life and death. The claim of His resurrection is solely on Christianity, and the beginning of Christianity could be said to have started at the beginning of Jesus’ teaching ministry, one could also make the argument it began at the resurrection of Jesus, one could also argue it began at the Birth of Jesus, one could also argue it began at the beginning of time or the time of Adam and Eve, as all things pointed to Jesus coming and all things point to His return. The question is not when did Christianity begin, its when wasn’t it a known that God was going to send a savior for the world? The entire Bible story is a foretelling and fulfillment of Jesus and God’s plan for redeeming the fallen world.
The old law is there to point out all of us fall short of God’s law, none of us can come close to fulfilling our own redemption. We all sin, and Christ’s blood was spilt for our sin sacrifice, per God’s directive of needing a blood sacrifice to atone for sin.. He died on the cross so that we all could die with Him and become subject to a new rule, that is the resurrection. In dying, we no longer are subject to the old law, we are alive and subject to the new law which says that we are unblemished sons and daughters of God and able to be in heaven forever with Him.
We need the old law to remind us we are all sinners, and subject to God’s judgement. We need the cross and death of Jesus to be our blood sacrifice. We need the resurrection of Jesus to allow us to live in the new order and not subject to the old law any longer.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: jsteve]
#8999481
02/04/24 12:53 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,958
unclebubba
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 9,958 |
Christianity began when Jesus changed Simon's name to Peter and said You are my Rock. Upon this rock I will build my church. That is not an exact quote, and I don't have time to go look up the exact verse. But I would say that moment was the birth of the Christian Church. Said He will build His church. It began in Acts 2. Also, read Hebrews 9:16-28 as to the why. Jesus Himself lived and died under the old covenant. Good point.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999484
02/04/24 12:54 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,295
oldoak2000
Extreme Tracker
|
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 4,295 |
History wise, where did Christianity begin? This is not a debate but rather a discussion. How did it all come about? What are your thoughts on the subject of how it all began? Trick question; 'History wise' , as in ' man's' history/perspective? - one could say Abraham, but before Abraham was, Christ IS.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999500
02/04/24 01:17 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,939
Simple Searcher
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,939 |
Excellent discussion guys. I was going to post "Antioch", but Western did a much better job.
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#8999517
02/04/24 01:45 AM
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,529
kmon11
junior
|
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,529 |
Western did a real good job.
This year we are doing a study of Acts in the Sunday morning services. Last year it was John. https:/www.ppbc.net if any want to join along with us.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#9000299
02/05/24 04:20 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 18,568
ducknbass
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 18,568 |
Pre Acts It was for Jewish followers only. Jesus came for the lost of the House of Abraham Several times he stated so. In Acts 8 I believe the Good news of Jesus went out to the world.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#9000399
02/05/24 07:38 PM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 24,392
dkershen
Rev Dave
|
Rev Dave
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 24,392 |
As resident Reverend I guess I have to weigh in. TurkeyHunters question is a bit grey. Probably on purpose knowing him.
So i'm going to restate it for my purposes.
History wise, when was Christianity first practiced? How did it all come about? What are your thoughts on the subject of how it all began? Then I'd say it was when Peter first spoke to "the people gathered" about the fulfillment of the scripture (Acts 1:14–17) following the resurrection. You could also argue it to be when Peter addressed the crowd in Acts 2:14-38. That sequence of events definitely laid the ground work for the first Christian church service, and hence the beginning of Christianity as a religion.
To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.www.NewHopeEquine.com - Health and Healing through Horses.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: ducknbass]
#9000411
02/05/24 08:06 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,565
BOBO the Clown
kind of a big deal
|
kind of a big deal
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,565 |
Unusual question you usually don't here out side of class or a seminary. Been some years, but the term "Christian" originated in the old city of Antioch, in what is currently Syria. Forgot the current name and would have to look it up. It was a major travel city in eastern rome and Apostle Paul and Barnabas went there teaching during a few of their travels, several other Apostles also taught there in their travels. ((Acts 11:26 ( I had to google that as I didn't recall the verse off hand)
IMO, The knew belief eventually called "Christian/Christianity" Started after the death of Christ and with his redemption of all, including "gentiles" This was one of the main points A. Paul preached,ie, Jesus has risen and his blood was for all through faith in Jesus Christ in simple form. This message contrasted greatly with the then main pagan roman populace and also the Pharasees and saducees and jewish teachings prior. This, Acts is where this information can be studied. When the Holy Spirit came upon believers. ditto^
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: dkershen]
#9000424
02/05/24 08:32 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,832
TurkeyHunter
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,832 |
TurkeyHunters question is a bit grey. Probably on purpose knowing him.
Just a general question that came up maybe after thinking about a documentary I saw or something I read. When, where, how is all open to interpretation for discussion. Lots of interesting input from THFers. The intent was a positive theological topic. In some ways I believe it began when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
To be determined
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#9000428
02/05/24 08:47 PM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 24,392
dkershen
Rev Dave
|
Rev Dave
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 24,392 |
TurkeyHunters question is a bit grey. Probably on purpose knowing him.
Just a general question that came up maybe after thinking about a documentary I saw or something I read. When, where, how is all open to interpretation for discussion. Lots of interesting input from THFers. The intent was a positive theological topic. In some ways I believe it began when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. I started to go down that path, but John was baptizing people long before he crossed path's with Jesus. Purification by water was actually a jewish tradition. So the first person to be baptized in Jesus's name (key difference) would have come after the resurrection IMO. Just my .02 cents.
To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.www.NewHopeEquine.com - Health and Healing through Horses.
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: dkershen]
#9000440
02/05/24 09:11 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,832
TurkeyHunter
OP
THF Celebrity
|
OP
THF Celebrity
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 19,832 |
TurkeyHunters question is a bit grey. Probably on purpose knowing him.
Just a general question that came up maybe after thinking about a documentary I saw or something I read. When, where, how is all open to interpretation for discussion. Lots of interesting input from THFers. The intent was a positive theological topic. In some ways I believe it began when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. I started to go down that path, but John was baptizing people long before he crossed path's with Jesus. Purification by water was actually a jewish tradition. So the first person to be baptized in Jesus's name (key difference) would have come after the resurrection IMO. Just my .02 cents. Thanks that makes a lot of sense.
To be determined
|
|
|
Re: History wise, where did Christianity begin?
[Re: TurkeyHunter]
#9000445
02/05/24 09:20 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,354
onlysmith&wesson
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,354 |
IMO, when the resurrected Jesus appeared to his disciples and told them to get after it. When I went to "The Church" I heard this called The Great Commission.
An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|