I can’t comprehend why someone would do this. Cannot comprehend waiting outside.

The one constant I look for in these cases, is always the hardest to find. Almost impossible. It’s the toxicology report of the shooter.

I’ve always had a gun on or in close proximity to me since I was 8 years old. Every one of them has just sat there being a gun and never did anything on its own.

Damn. Just looked this up, and you're right.

Suppose we were depending on their morals, something it appears they lacked.

Thank you for taking on that responsibility.

Indeed. Thank you!

I really only blame the Chief and the officers standing in the hall way within the first 5-6 minutes. I think they could have made a difference.

If you want charges, here you go. https://www.statesman.com/story/new...inal-charges-police-failure/72286868007/

I highly doubt any charge of child endangerment is going to stick but they are going to try. If an officer gets charged with that whoever left the door propped open should be a no brainer for a conviction.

No way those charges fit.

They are just cowards. Mainly just the first handful of officers.
This should have been over within 5 minutes of the first guys on scene.

State should take away their peace officer licenses.

I think you are spot on with your analysis, although I wouldn't paint all of them as cowards, following orders from a superior officer means a ton in the police profession, if you don't follow orders, you don't last long. The only question I have left is if the Uvalde ISD Chief didn't believe he was in charge of this scene, who did he believe was in charge? I'd like to hear someone interview him. I'm not sure it matters anymore in this country if the charges fit or if you even committed a crime, lots of folks being charged/convicted for crimes that have nothing to do with their actual actions. This was a failure from the get-go, and I think those first officers set the fate of everyone else involved..,

I agree Concho.
I feel it Should have been over before a supervisor got there. If driving there, direct them to go inside, if needed.

At the same time. Responding officers are still not fully equipped.
Need ballistic shields in every car.
Need a hooligan tool in every car.
Most don’t know how to breach a door with a shotgun. (Breaching rounds).

Saw this today. Hope to see more. May God help our teachers protect our children.

What's the right course of action if your commanding officer orders you to hold your position, but you don't agree with them?

Was right by there two weekends ago.

I was thinking like Turkey Hunter. I don't think cowardice is a criminal charge. I have thought all along that the county DA will do exactly what blkt2 wrote.

How can you trust the DOJ?

I was watching TV when the cops in the hall started withdrawing when they heard shots of children being killed. Bunch of chickenshits!

I didn't understand those actions either. A one-on-one gunfight is like a boxing match. A gunfight involving multiple people is like a football game, once momentum is lost you're screwed. The officers on scene had what I like to call analysis paralysis. Once they lost momentum and began to overthink things they started waiting for the next piece of gear like it was some magical talisman. There is no special gear, it's like thinking you can only fight with a sword that you pulled out of a stone like Excalibur and you're waiting for the guy with the magic sword to show up . You have to fight with what you have and not what you wish you had.

Who was the guy responsible for this shooting again? Exactly...he isn't even listed in the final report "So as to avoid Glorification..." They list him as "Subject" This is what the powers that be always do, turn the attention toward police and guns and away from the evil creature who committed the crime and caused all this grief.

The general assumption is that criminals are just going to criminal and there's not much that can be done about it. What they are concerned about are tactics in responding to the actions of criminals and what changes need to be made to those tactics if existing tactics didn't work. You also have to consider that this report was compiled by a political organization for political reasons and they're going to slant their findings to fit their agenda.

In this case well-established tactics of engaging a shooter as quickly as humanly possible and not letting up pressure on the shooter until they are dead simply weren't followed but they would have been successful if they had been followed. It's not like the shooter was a Navy SEAL, Delta Force or a Beekeeper.

I hear you and once again I do not agree with the actions taken by police that day, but who has the best chance of identifying the next mass shooter, the police, who don't come in contact until the shooting starts, or the people around him/her every day? They have a saying "See something, say something" but how does the public do that if they don't know what to look for or the common red flags? All these shooters are now being hidden from the public and their manifestos concealed from the public, we need to see the Evil People who commit these crimes and openly condemn them every day for the sick actions they took against fellow Americans. The Actor is where the grief and anger needs to be directed, not the responder who made a poor decision.

Not long after the shooting at Columbine, I questioned a SWAT team type as to why all the cops were armed, armored and trained, lined up outside taking cover behind police cruisers waiting for the nasty gunfire to stop before they made a move. I am not an expert in such things, but it looked really counter intuitive to me, I said to him.

He assured me that the whole playbook for such events had been rewritten and that the doctrine and training was to go in and challenge the shooter. Trust the superior training and equipment to take down a teenage crazy.

I could not believe that two decades later the officer in charge would blow it so badly. It's like nothing was learned from all the same scenarios in the past.

The habits of years of repetitive training are hard to break (We were taught for years to wait for backup and hold on hostage situations), every tragic incident expose weaknesses of training, and it is hard to convince a young man with a wife and kids at home that he should run toward gunfire when his mind tells him otherwise. Not a single person knows how they would react until they have been there and done that...we can all play Monday Morning Quarterback, that is what the DOJ is doing with this report, but we cannot get inside officer's heads and determine their mindset.

One thing I will say about the DOJ.

They have no problem pushing full transparency to local law enforcement. They have no problem critiquing an obvious failure. Not hard to figure out there was a huge failure to further protect and rescue those children. I don’t need 600 page report.

They sure were secretive and non transparent about the unarmed woman killed in the Capitol. Sure we’re secretive about trans shooters manifesto. Even though no charges were pending.

Yep, you really don't need a report to know this was messed up from the get-go...I'm just wondering why the DOJ/Prowers that be, want to hide somethings from us but interject themselves in situations where the issues really aren't hard to see, and waste probably millions of dollars, while refusing to name the Actor in the process.

That's because the Department of Justice has nothing to do with justice. They should simply call themselves the department of power because that's what they really are. I mentioned in another thread that the party of government is the Democrat Party and they will use every lever of power in government to their advantage to push their agenda.