"Cascading Failure"

Critical Incident Review Active Shooter at Robb Elementary School

It's an indelible stain that will take generations to wipe out. Everybody lost, especially the kids.

Just a really sad story all around

Those officers had the training that the State of Texas has now made mandatory for every LEO in the state.

It’s not bad. Obviously they did t pay attention

I cant imagine the pain and anger these families have. Reading each victims story towards the end of the report, I couldn't help but think of my 10 year old daughter who is sitting in a classroom right now. I have done my best to prepare her on what to do incase this horrible situation ever took place.

I would lose my mind if something was to happen to her.

Prayers be with these families.

Small town thinking that it's a big city problem?

IDK. Just cowardice if you ask me. Ever since Florida we have been trained on 1 man entry into an active shooter (we arrive on scene and hear gunfire). There’s no more waiting for a team, make entry and go to the sound of gunfire.

That was a tough read. Page 18-19 called it what it was. Massive failure by the Chief and a yellow streak up the back of the LEOs responding.

Outside of the first officer hesitating to engage the shooter and asking for permission to shoot him the entire debacle started with a collapse of leadership that cascaded down the chain of command. If the chief had said "Go get em" then they would have done so. Officers pulling off of their initial assault was an egregious error and they should have kept pressure on the shooter from both directions once they realized where he was at and that the room had a window. When the leadership gets paralyzed with inaction it paralyzes everyone below them. All that it would have taken was a single officer to realize that leadership had failed and to rally the other officers to make an assault against the shooter. Why that didn't happen I suspect comes from the institutionalized mindset that so many police officers have.

I didn’t read the report. I know what a coward is.

I don’t necessarily blame guys who showed up 5-10 minutes later. The failure was from 1st, 2nd, 3rd officers on scene. This thing should have been over my the time the 10th guy got there.

Nashville guys followed their training and natural instincts. Arrived, armed themselves, communicated and entered. Search and Destroy.

I have no data to support this. But I feel over half of these shooters off themselves when confronted.

Cowardice plain and simple, all the way down to the officer on camera saying if it was her daughter she wouldn't be waiting outside.

I don't say this lightly, or full of some sort of keyboard bravado, but if you're an officer and arrive on scene at a school shooting, you run towards the gunfire. I don't care what equipment you have, what backup you have, or what the suspect is armed with, you make your peace and go in. There were women and children in there, you don't stand around looking at other officers wondering who's in charge.

Cowards. Every single last one of them.

Did I read correctly, the door that they gained entry through and ended it with killing the POS wasn't locked?

"At around 12:48 p.m., the entry team enters the room. Though the entry team puts the key in the door,
turns the key, and opens it, pulling the door toward them, the CIR Team concludes that the door is likely
already unlocked, as the shooter gained entry through the door and it is unlikely that he locked it
thereafter."

What did I miss here? What lead them to believe the door was locked?

Now that this report has been published, I wonder if the local DA will file charges against any of them? They need to be held accountable.

I do believe it was unlocked. Which only further highlights the need for immediate action. The longer they sat there, the longer misinformation had to spread.

This still holds true

If they had just tried, quickly...................door was unlocked. Breaks my heart.

I am a member of our Guardian Team. I have been through extensive training. I am the first line of defense. I will go to the fight, not run. I figure there is a good chance Im going to get shot and die anyway might as well fight back.

I believe their main focus was on traffic citations, DWIs and auto accidents.

What would be the charges?

Doesn't matter because they are just going to make one up to satisfy public outrage. Really at worst they should just fire any officer found lacking and call it a day. Instead they are going to twist some law like a pretzel and charge a few officers.

Dereliction of duty maybe? You have officers on camera stating they'd go inside if it was their kid. I'm all for protecting our police officers from frivolous nonsense, but if there standing outside when they know they should be assaulting the subject and that children are dying, seems like they should get something more than just a temporary job loss.

Is dereliction of duty an actual charge punishable by fine or jail time?

I think a few officers in leadership roles have already been terminated.

Police officers don't have a legal obligation to protect people, at least not in the sense that they can be prosecuted for failing to do so.

It was sad to see the families of the victims lobbing hard for gun control at both the state and federal levels. Typical leftist mentality though, blame the gun.

Same thing as blaming car wreck deaths on the cars.