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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8985746 01/11/24 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistereeee
Assuming it was legal, my question would be knowing its low population levels (here and in Mexico), would you shoot a jaguar? Or would you let it pass knowing any sort of harvest would continue to harm the species' recovery?


Nowadays the only way it would be legal is if was sustainable, meaning it would not harm the species's recovery. So, yes. I'm thinking a rug.

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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: RattlesnakeDan] #8985804 01/11/24 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RattlesnakeDan
I think I would but that decision would depend on the circumstances. I have let a mt lion walk because I was enjoying watching and intrigued for the moment. Now if there was a bounty or a call to hunt a jaguar to get rid of it I would thoroughly enjoy that opportunity because of the challenge involved. Kinda like the neighborhood cats....ok, forget I said that.


I think I land more in this category. The first time I saw one in the wild, I think I might just admire it and enjoy the moment. The second or third time, I'd probably shoot it straight off because that would be one hell of a story, but the first time probably not.

(And for those mentioning it's illegal to kill them, my original question was IF they were legal.)

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Originally Posted by Mistereeee
Originally Posted by RattlesnakeDan
I think I would but that decision would depend on the circumstances. I have let a mt lion walk because I was enjoying watching and intrigued for the moment. Now if there was a bounty or a call to hunt a jaguar to get rid of it I would thoroughly enjoy that opportunity because of the challenge involved. Kinda like the neighborhood cats....ok, forget I said that.


I think I land more in this category. The first time I saw one in the wild, I think I might just admire it and enjoy the moment. The second or third time, I'd probably shoot it straight off because that would be one hell of a story, but the first time probably not.

(And for those mentioning it's illegal to kill them, my original question was IF they were legal.)

OK, IF they become legal, then it's a maybe. It would make a very cool rug. But it would be pretty cool to just watch it. So, my official answer is Maybe.

Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8985844 01/11/24 05:55 PM
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They are considered endangered. You would be an idiot to shoot it because you can be damn sure they are keeping a close eye on it


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8985847 01/11/24 06:05 PM
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Folks are missing the "Assuming it was legal" part of the OP.

Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: ntxtrapper] #8985851 01/11/24 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Folks are missing the "Assuming it was legal" part of the OP.

What, and QMC SW/EXW miss a chance to call someone a name? It's what he does.


An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Nolanco] #8985874 01/11/24 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nolanco
They are rare and gorgeous big cats -- the third largest after lions and tigers. Give it a pass and wish it bon chance!


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: ntxtrapper] #8985875 01/11/24 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Folks are missing the "Assuming it was legal" part of the OP.


Yes, I was not advocating committing a crime. roflmao

Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8985913 01/11/24 08:04 PM
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on my ranch in texas, no doubt i would. same with a grizzly or a wolf.
in arizona or new mexico, nope. they would be monitoring it im sure.

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If legal.

And if there had been reports of livestock being killing unexplained, then yes, put it down.

A shock to myself and anyone else in the area, that it is even there. My shots would only come from a camera.

I kill the hell out of coyotes. We've got no shortage of them, and they cause all kinds of damage. But, I have this deep respect for all large cats. They are the ultimate predator.


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: ScrapIron] #8986561 01/12/24 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ScrapIron
on my ranch in texas, no doubt i would. same with a grizzly or a wolf.
in arizona or new mexico, nope. they would be monitoring it im sure.

I've always wanted to hunt a wolf!

Where is "South/Central Texas"? I'm south of Austin myself.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Folks are missing the "Assuming it was legal" part of the OP.


That is a moron's statement because you will never legally kill a jaguar in the USA. Not gonna happen.


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: onlysmith&wesson] #8986605 01/12/24 11:30 PM
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Folks are missing the "Assuming it was legal" part of the OP.

What, and QMC SW/EXW miss a chance to call someone a name? It's what he does.


Idiots like you need to be called out and I reserve the right to do so. Don't like it? Don't read it.


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8986610 01/12/24 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistereeee
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on my ranch in texas, no doubt i would. same with a grizzly or a wolf.
in arizona or new mexico, nope. they would be monitoring it im sure.

I've always wanted to hunt a wolf!

Where is "South/Central Texas"? I'm south of Austin myself.


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8986634 01/13/24 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Folks are missing the "Assuming it was legal" part of the OP.

What, and QMC SW/EXW miss a chance to call someone a name? It's what he does.


Idiots like you need to be called out and I reserve the right to do so. Don't like it? Don't read it.
You fell for it. You’re easy.


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8986811 01/13/24 01:28 PM
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I would shoot without a doubt.....mountain lions average killing one deer a week! So a bigger Jaguar would need a little more I would think.



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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8987346 01/14/24 01:59 PM
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I have heard from more than one source that mountain lion is a delicious white meat. The biggest concern is trichinosis if improperly cooked -- like bear. Some here may recall that "Meat Eater" Steve Rinella and his homies got trichinosis from eating undercooked bear.
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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8988148 01/15/24 03:27 PM
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No way would I shoot it. It has enough to contend with for survival without knuckle-heads trying to shoot it with a gun. Most likely it will succumb to death by automobile. Sad but this is the way that a lot of the cats go. I would want it to live as long as it could and reproduce. Would be nice to have a LOT more of them munching on liberals bones out that way...


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8993695 01/24/24 08:58 PM
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I would not shoot it. Don't have any reason to.


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Would not. Seen one Jaguar in my life. In the jungles of South America. There are many more in Mexico. Not plentiful but not as endangered. Arizona is the very tip of its range and well outside the normal habitat. That's enough of a handicap in my view.


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No way. I don't have an interest in hunting large predators unless the population is stable and large. I'd love to see a jaguar in the wild


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