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Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? #8985237 01/10/24 05:15 PM
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Long story short, a jaguar was recently spotted on a game camera by a man in Southern Arizona, where the population has been showing signs of recovery. Assuming it was legal, my question would be knowing its low population levels (here and in Mexico), would you shoot a jaguar? Or would you let it pass knowing any sort of harvest would continue to harm the species' recovery?

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They are rare and gorgeous big cats -- the third largest after lions and tigers. Give it a pass and wish it bon chance!

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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Mistereeee] #8985244 01/10/24 05:27 PM
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Given a legal tag to take one, i sure would. Presuming the numbers are strong enough to be hunted, they will require management. Doubt if it will happen in my lifetime.


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Re: Jaguar spotted in Arizona. Would you shoot it? [Re: Nolanco] #8985245 01/10/24 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nolanco
They are rare and gorgeous big cats -- the third largest after lions and tigers. Give it a pass and wish it bon chance!


I tend to agree, but that would be me personally. I wouldn't have a problem with someone else shooting it per se, I just don't think I could!

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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
Given a legal tag to take one, I sure would. Presuming the numbers are strong enough to be hunted, they will require management. Doubt if it will happen in my lifetime.


I doubt it will in my lifetime either!

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I'll shoot anything except a liger. It's pretty much my favorite animal.

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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
I'll shoot anything except a liger. It's pretty much my favorite animal.


Well, they're bred for their skills in magic.


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I'll shoot anything except a liger. It's pretty much my favorite animal.


Well, they're bred for their skills in magic.


Now I want some tots.


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If it was a legal kill, I certainly would.

Animals are not immortal and die of natural causes.

If it was a young animal then maybe not but a mature or post mature male, I’m pulling the trigger.


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No, cat meat sucks I hear.

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I heard mountain lion is just like pork


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Would not. Might be singing a different tune if it was killing my cattle. My gut tells me there are more here on THF that would shoot one than not. A black one wouldn’t stand a chance with this crowd.


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Originally Posted by Smokey Bear
Would not. Might be singing a different tune if it was killing my cattle. My gut tells me there are more here on THF that would shoot one than not. A black one wouldn’t stand a chance with this crowd.


Oh my.

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Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
I heard mountain lion is just like pork

Always been told bobcats are tasty.

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Originally Posted by Mistereeee
Originally Posted by Bryan C. Heimann
I heard mountain lion is just like pork

Always been told bobcats are tasty.


Neither of these are true unless you’re starving.

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I don't have cattle, so if it was on my land, it would get a walk. If it was on most all of my landowner's lands, then it would get shot.

As for whether or not cat tastes good, my neighbor and old hunting partner loves mountain lion meat. He described at a light flavored, sort of sweet meat as meats go, but the pork comparison isn't uncommon.
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I don't doubt it may be pork-like in some manners, but if mountain lion tastes "just like pork," then why would I bother eating mountain lion if I can just have cheaper and easier to get pork?


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No and same for mountain lions,could have shot a mountain lion in Nevada years ago.Pretty critters.

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I would absolutely shoot a jaguar, and legalities would be the only thing stopping me. The people that think they’re neat and wouldn’t shoot them because of that probably don’t know a lot about predatory animals and the animals that they do like to shoot.

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Sustainable and legal utilization. Even if extremely rare, if the law says it is OK based on the animal being very old /no longer able to breed then I see no reason why you should not be able to shoot it if you want to (and have the tag/permit).

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Originally Posted by Sneaky
I would absolutely shoot a jaguar, and legalities would be the only thing stopping me. The people that think they’re neat and wouldn’t shoot them because of that probably don’t know a lot about predatory animals and the animals that they do like to shoot.


How horrible. The jaguar should die of old age surrounded by all its animal friends while they discuss what a meaningful life it lived roflmao

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I think I would but that decision would depend on the circumstances. I have let a mt lion walk because I was enjoying watching and intrigued for the moment. Now if there was a bounty or a call to hunt a jaguar to get rid of it I would thoroughly enjoy that opportunity because of the challenge involved. Kinda like the neighborhood cats....ok, forget I said that.


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Originally Posted by ntxtrapper
Originally Posted by Sneaky
I would absolutely shoot a jaguar, and legalities would be the only thing stopping me. The people that think they’re neat and wouldn’t shoot them because of that probably don’t know a lot about predatory animals and the animals that they do like to shoot.


How horrible. The jaguar should die of old age surrounded by all its animal friends while they discuss what a meaningful life it lived roflmao

Actually, we should shoot all we see as it will result in an increased population. We all win! banana2

If legal, I would shoot a jag. And if I ever see one, a mountain lion too.


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No, cat meat sucks I hear.


Taste like bald eagle to me.

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Considering the warden in that video mentioned that they are an endangered species and it is illegal to kill them, then, no.


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