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Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag #8947488 11/01/23 11:04 AM
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Anyone had this happen on a Kimber or any other 1911? Is it a mag issue or a slide lock issue or something else? Gun is nearly new. Does it maybe half the time firing the first or second round from a fully loaded mag.

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Try a Wilson Combat mag.

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Originally Posted by jeffbird
Try a Wilson Combat mag.

Roger, will do, thanks!

Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: patriot07] #8947522 11/01/23 12:28 PM
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First time shooting a 1911? Just asking because I’ve seen a lot of guys grip be the issue. They’re riding the slide lock with their palm swell and it pushes up ever so slightly and it will lock the slide back. Since it’s pretty much new the spring and extent might need a little breaking in too.


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Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: KRoyal] #8947547 11/01/23 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KRoyal
First time shooting a 1911? Just asking because I’ve seen a lot of guys grip be the issue. They’re riding the slide lock with their palm swell and it pushes up ever so slightly and it will lock the slide back. Since it’s pretty much new the spring and extent might need a little breaking in too.

It's my FIL's. I'll check and see if that might be it. Thanks for the tip.

I've shot 1911s a long time. I have a Colt and an old WW2 Remington Rand that I love to shoot

Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: patriot07] #8947560 11/01/23 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by patriot07
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First time shooting a 1911? Just asking because I’ve seen a lot of guys grip be the issue. They’re riding the slide lock with their palm swell and it pushes up ever so slightly and it will lock the slide back. Since it’s pretty much new the spring and extent might need a little breaking in too.

It's my FIL's. I'll check and see if that might be it. Thanks for the tip.

I've shot 1911s a long time. I have a Colt and an old WW2 Remington Rand that I love to shoot

I thought you had posted about 1911's in the past which is why I asked. Sorry my phone auto corrected me, I meant spring and detent. up


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Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: jeffbird] #8947758 11/01/23 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jeffbird
Try a Wilson Combat mag.

Dumb question - is the 7 round or 8 round more likely to be reliable? Or doesn't matter? Does the 8-round stick out past the grip more, or same?

If both of those answers are the same, why do they sell 7 rounders? Just a nod to Mr. John Browning?

Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: KRoyal] #8947763 11/01/23 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KRoyal
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First time shooting a 1911? Just asking because I’ve seen a lot of guys grip be the issue. They’re riding the slide lock with their palm swell and it pushes up ever so slightly and it will lock the slide back. Since it’s pretty much new the spring and extent might need a little breaking in too.

It's my FIL's. I'll check and see if that might be it. Thanks for the tip.

I've shot 1911s a long time. I have a Colt and an old WW2 Remington Rand that I love to shoot

I thought you had posted about 1911's in the past which is why I asked. Sorry my phone auto corrected me, I meant spring and detent. up

This was my first thought also. I shoot 1911's all the time, so I'm not a 1911 newbie. I've had this has happened to me just from me getting lazy. I've also had the opposite happen...Have my thumb too low and activate the mag release on accident.


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Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: patriot07] #8947781 11/01/23 07:46 PM
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Sometimes the plunger tube spring and the pin can cause some upward pressure on the slide stop.
I actually had the tip of the pin in the plunger tube have a scrape or scratch across it which would walk the slide stop upwards.

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Originally Posted by patriot07
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Try a Wilson Combat mag.

Dumb question - is the 7 round or 8 round more likely to be reliable? Or doesn't matter? Does the 8-round stick out past the grip more, or same?

If both of those answers are the same, why do they sell 7 rounders? Just a nod to Mr. John Browning?


No idea why some prefer 7 rounders.

There are small differences in geometry of mags and also feed ramps.

I tested a bunch of mags long ago. For the last fifteen years or so I have carried the Wilson ETM 8 round mags every day and trust my life to them working correctly.

Tripp Cobra mags and Chip McCormick are others to try, but try the Wilson first.

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Originally Posted by jeffbird
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Try a Wilson Combat mag.

Dumb question - is the 7 round or 8 round more likely to be reliable? Or doesn't matter? Does the 8-round stick out past the grip more, or same?

If both of those answers are the same, why do they sell 7 rounders? Just a nod to Mr. John Browning?


No idea why some prefer 7 rounders.

There are small differences in geometry of mags and also feed ramps.

I tested a bunch of mags long ago. For the last fifteen years or so I have carried the Wilson ETM 8 round mags every day and trust my life to them working correctly.

Tripp Cobra mags and Chip McCormick are others to try, but try the Wilson first.



Cool

This is an Ultra Carry Kimber - do they use regular 1911 mags? WC ETM says they're compatible with Commander, so I assume it's good?

Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: patriot07] #8947939 11/01/23 11:52 PM
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I just looked at Kimber’s webpage for the Ultra Carry and only find the Ultra Carry II. It looks like an officer size frame, which requires a smaller mag. I am not a Kimber guy, so need a Kimber expert to chime in on which size mag the UC 2 needs.

Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: patriot07] #8947940 11/01/23 11:54 PM
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Wilson 47d are the best mags I’ve used in 1911
Down side to them is they will hide deficiencies of the pistol


i am cancelling my subscription, i am tired of your issues!
Re: Kimber 1911 locking open with not-empty mag [Re: patriot07] #8947942 11/02/23 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by patriot07
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Try a Wilson Combat mag.

Dumb question - is the 7 round or 8 round more likely to be reliable? Or doesn't matter? Does the 8-round stick out past the grip more, or same?

If both of those answers are the same, why do they sell 7 rounders? Just a nod to Mr. John Browning?


No idea why some prefer 7 rounders.

There are small differences in geometry of mags and also feed ramps.

I tested a bunch of mags long ago. For the last fifteen years or so I have carried the Wilson ETM 8 round mags every day and trust my life to them working correctly.

Tripp Cobra mags and Chip McCormick are others to try, but try the Wilson first.



Cool

This is an Ultra Carry Kimber - do they use regular 1911 mags? WC ETM says they're compatible with Commander, so I assume it's good?

The Kimber Ultra is Officer size not commander size. I don’t think there is any way of stuffing 8 rounds in an officer size without having the mag stick out of the frame.


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Glad you weighed in KR, I just edited mine after looking at Kimber’s webpage.


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Glad you weighed in KR, I just edited mine after looking at Kimber’s webpage.

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So any mag that will fit an officer size 1911 should be good?

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Run Wilson Combat magazines

2 biggest issues I’ve saw in 1911’s

I’ve got 1 of of earlier Kimbers (20 plus years old) and I’ve never had an issue w it when doin those 2 things

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Call me crazy but this and WC mags

It’s the only firearm I grease

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Originally Posted by patriot07
So any mag that will fit an officer size 1911 should be good?

Yes.


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Thanks Gus!

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Originally Posted by KRoyal
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So any mag that will fit an officer size 1911 should be good?

Yes.

Thanks!

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This is almost always due to the nose of the bullet bumping the inside lug of the slide stop on feeding. Removing material from the rear corner of the slide stop internal lug and/or shooting more pointed bullets will resolve this issue.

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This is almost always due to the nose of the bullet bumping the inside lug of the slide stop on feeding. Removing material from the rear corner of the slide stop internal lug and/or shooting more pointed bullets will resolve this issue.


Exactly! Same problem showed up in some early 10mm guns built on 1911 frames and that was the fix, removing some material.

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