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Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 04:07 AM
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From a few sources today, they sold the property and next week's World of Outlaws race will be the last event before they close the gates for good. So sad all of these race tracks just keep going away one by one.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 04:31 AM
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So no electric dirt track races?
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 04:57 AM
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Loved going there.
On certain nights we can hear the races from the track and we are about 7 miles away.
Sad they are closing.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 09:11 AM
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Had a lot of good times there in the 80's and 90's , seems like Drag Racing is slowing down too now , stands are not as full
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 10:13 AM
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What is going to be built down there? That’s gotta be in a flood plain.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 12:04 PM
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This supports is my theory on musclecars (tier 2 and below; tier 1 are your iconic 67-9 Camaros, 65-70 Mustang fastback configurations, 1st gen Broncos, etc), Harleys and classic motorcycles of any kind, etc.). The Lord doesn't make men who love and understand vintge carbureted machinery...thus the market on them will tank in our lives. Closing circle tracks and dragstrips are clear indicators. End of an era boys.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 12:08 PM
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A lot of race cars don't have carburetors any longer and they're much quicker and more reliable. Don't think it's a lack of knowledge. It's prohibitively expensive to race OR operate a track. Even flood plane land is skyrocketing to values more than a dirt oval can make by hosting a few events plus the regulars.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 12:42 PM
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I don't disagree. Lack of knowledge, interest, mechanical understanding and DIY skills.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 12:48 PM
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I miss the kennedale tracks too. Spent many Friday nights there.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 01:14 PM
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Back in the 60's we raced Kennedale Friday night, Crandall Saturday night, and Devils Bowl some Sunday nights. Sure had good times at all the tracks. Had to change rear ends to race Devils Bowl. It was longer. Some of ya'll might remember us. Number 14, red and white 55 Chevy, Dean Daniels was our driver.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 01:35 PM
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This supports is my theory on musclecars (tier 2 and below; tier 1 are your iconic 67-9 Camaros, 65-70 Mustang fastback configurations, 1st gen Broncos, etc), Harleys and classic motorcycles of any kind, etc.). The Lord doesn't make men who love and understand vintge carbureted machinery...thus the market on them will tank in our lives. Closing circle tracks and dragstrips are clear indicators. End of an era boys. There are cheap and easy to tune electronic fuel injection systems on the market that cost considerably less than a top tier racing carburetor and are MUCH, MUCH easier to tune. Aftermarket engine management systems are hardly a new thing. I installed my first one on a vehicle in the late 1980s when Haltech Engine Management Systems first set up shop in Garland. I then went on to be one of their largest distributors for many years. I think there are simply not as many Gearheads anymore because people have other things to do to occupy their time and later model cars are a little bit more difficult and expensive to modify.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 01:46 PM
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I don't disagree. Lack of knowledge, interest, mechanical understanding and DIY skills. Nope, it's cheaper to go faster with new tech. 3500 pound street cars with 275 width street legal tires are running mid-6's at 225 and they don't have carbs. I miss the kennedale tracks too. Spent many Friday nights there. Me too. Drive there from Lewisville, swap tires, race, drive home. Better when the track near Sanger was open but it has closed as well... This from Kennedale mid-90's.
Pass the gravy.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 02:02 PM
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I don't disagree. Lack of knowledge, interest, mechanical understanding and DIY skills. I spent several weeks researching the best route to take, rebuilding my 1979 Ford 400 c.i. The internet provided ample videos and text to read. The "knowledge, interest, mcheninical understanding and DIY skills" are widely available and free to obtain. I will keep it carbureted, but I could change it to fuel injected if I chose to.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 02:07 PM
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This supports is my theory on musclecars (tier 2 and below; tier 1 are your iconic 67-9 Camaros, 65-70 Mustang fastback configurations, 1st gen Broncos, etc), Harleys and classic motorcycles of any kind, etc.). The Lord doesn't make men who love and understand vintge carbureted machinery...thus the market on them will tank in our lives. Closing circle tracks and dragstrips are clear indicators. End of an era boys. There are cheap and easy to tune electronic fuel injection systems on the market that cost considerably less than a top tier racing carburetor and are MUCH, MUCH easier to tune. Aftermarket engine management systems are hardly a new thing. I installed my first one on a vehicle in the late 1980s when Haltech Engine Management Systems first set up shop in Garland. I then went on to be one of their largest distributors for many years. I think there are simply not as many Gearheads anymore because people have other things to do to occupy their time and later model cars are a little bit more difficult and expensive to modify. Anyone that us going to restore, modify, and repair any vehicle needs to be fairly financially secure. And have a decent amount of expendable income. Most of American is not living with that financial freedom. Before buying any parts, the tools, toolboxes, and equipment alone can be very expensive. I know you're well aware of that.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 02:08 PM
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I find rebuilding a Motorcraft 2bbl carb much easier than trying to decipher fuel injection wizidry.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 02:29 PM
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I find rebuilding a Motorcraft 2bbl carb much easier than trying to decipher fuel injection wizidry. A quadrajet not so much.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 02:40 PM
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I find rebuilding a Motorcraft 2bbl carb much easier than trying to decipher fuel injection wizidry. You should try one of the mid 80s Motorcraft variable Venturi carburetors. Disassembling a carburetor and putting it back together is easy for the most part. Trying to establish a reliable fuel curve in three very distinct different operating conditions is very difficult. The majority of the carburetors on the market are effectively three carburetors built into one . You have the idle circuit , you have the main circuit , and then you have the power enrichment circuit. On a factory carburetor most of that work has been done for you from the factory and they are effectively programming the carburetor to match the engine. Make a few changes and suddenly the fuel curve that worked in a factory engine becomes very lacking for the new combination.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 02:41 PM
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All of this reminds me of when I lived in Pleasant Grove in the 70's.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 02:42 PM
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I find rebuilding a Motorcraft 2bbl carb much easier than trying to decipher fuel injection wizidry. A quadrajet not so much. They are superb carburetors but you have to be familiar with them to be able to tune with them. I still have a tackle box full of tuning parts for those carburetors. My only complaint with them was a fixed jet size in the secondaries.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 02:51 PM
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Had a lot of good times there in the 80's and 90's , seems like Drag Racing is slowing down too now , stands are not as full Right you are. Mid 60's Tyler area had 2 drag strips. One East of Tyler (I-20) had a lot of big names just starting out. Another in Whitehouse an outlaw track. Gene Snow was a frequent racer at I-20. Now even Tx Motorplex in Ennis is seeing a decline in attendance. Sad. When Ennis first opened, seats were hard to find. Now you can sit anywhere you want.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 03:41 PM
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I actually liked the Quadrajet.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 05:29 PM
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I had a 77 heavy half with a 454 with a good 4 barrel quadrajet. Ran superbly.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 05:43 PM
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I don't disagree. Lack of knowledge, interest, mechanical understanding and DIY skills. Nope, it's cheaper to go faster with new tech. 3500 pound street cars with 275 width street legal tires are running mid-6's at 225 and they don't have carbs. I miss the kennedale tracks too. Spent many Friday nights there. Me too. Drive there from Lewisville, swap tires, race, drive home. Better when the track near Sanger was open but it has closed as well... This from Kennedale mid-90's. I've parked in that exact spot many times. Great memories.
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 05:44 PM
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I grew up in Mesquite, and on a Saturday night with the wind right we could hear the cars going around the track. Another note on Devil's Bowl, my grandparents lived off of La Prada and John West back in the 70's, and when exploring the area on my bike one day I ran across the remnants of the original Devil's Bowl track in a field. Had no idea what it was until my dad informed me after being told about it.
With the current Devil's Bowl being between the gun range across the street, which is absolutely flood plain, and the airport, I'm guessing it will be an industrial park or something. But in today's world it wouldn't surprise me if they built a bunch of houses and then the tenants start complaining about the noisy airport next door or gun range across the street.
As for the tracks (of all kinds) disappearing at an alarming rate across the country, I have this to say:
Building and repairing anything is becoming a lost art in the modern world. Everything we buy is disposable, planned obsolescence. No shop classes in schools either. It's all by design. 70yrs ago the owner's manual of a car had instructions on how to set the valve lash, now they have warnings to not drink the contents of the battery. Self reliance is being cycled out of society in every way it possibly can be. They want us soft and dependent upon them, indebted for the entirety of our lives. As a result instant gratification rules the day. Nobody wants to toil in the garage at home on weekends building a hot rod anymore, you can just go out and buy one. The gratification of building and doing things yourself is lost on today's society.
Admittedly, I own a "modern muscle car". For what it is, I couldn't have built one that runs as well for twice the cost. But even then, mine will likely never see a mechanic shop while I own it. Not for something as simple as an oil change or as complicated as an engine rebuild or major component R&R. It's a great platform that I will maintain, upgrade, and service as needed while I have it. I've built plenty of them in my life, and still have a few projects I'm working on.
The reason for the rambling above is to point out that we are killing these tracks as a society. We're not raising kids to work on stuff, and as a result they have no interest in building and racing anything when they can turn on their gaming console, log in, and race virtually. I attended a road racing "track night" event this past week, and there were maybe 4 actual participants there under 30yrs old. Most of us were 40+. That's very telling. There's no game console that can simulate the feeling of making it thru a high speed sweeper at 80mph+ with all four tires in a controlled slide, or what the car feels like when you crest a hill braking into a blind corner and the weight shifts from the rear of the car to the front, and how that effects the handling. But are we communicating that to the youth of today? Are we getting them out there and showing them that life doesn't have to be a simulation? That they can actually do it? And in doing it the gratification is often immeasurable?
As hunters we all see the value of passing on the heritage to youth so a way of life is not lost forever. This situation is no different. And each are beneficial in more ways than can be calculated. Our inaction is feeding this decline. Society has re-prioritized our lives, only we can fix it. Will we though?
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Re: Devil's Bowl Speedway closing
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10/15/23 06:51 PM
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