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Unusual Cleaning Required #8934430 10/12/23 07:11 PM
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I have a barrel that does not like to be dirty. At around 70-80 rounds its tanks bad. Bartlein 5R. Past experience has told me +/- 250 is where I should expect to see that.

Bad like 2” groups go to 6-7” groups. Clean right then at the range and back to 2” groups.

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My 7 mag with a Shilen barrel is like that. Only one out of the 40 or so rifles that I own.


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Are the 2" groups the best the rifle can do under optimal conditions?


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time for a new barrel. confused2


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Re: Unusual Cleaning Required [Re: onlysmith&wesson] #8934495 10/12/23 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
Are the 2" groups the best the rifle can do under optimal conditions?



Sorry, at 500 yards.

Buzz it is a new barrel sitting around 350 rounds.

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You didn't mention what cartridge it was chambered in. If it is a high intensity cartridge and you are at close to book max back it off a bit and see if that improves anything.

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Originally Posted by wp75169
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Are the 2" groups the best the rifle can do under optimal conditions?



Sorry, at 500 yards.

Buzz it is a new barrel sitting around 350 rounds.


Nice, it had to be something other 100.


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Originally Posted by blkt2
You didn't mention what cartridge it was chambered in. If it is a high intensity cartridge and you are at close to book max back it off a bit and see if that improves anything.



7-08 and 1.2g under Hodgdon max.

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Not all barrels are created equal. The good news is you know how to solve this issue, clean it.


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2" is pretty horrible

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I had a double rifle I built that had one barrel that shot horribly once dirty, and that line came fast! Talk about a PITA


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Originally Posted by Brother in-law
2" is pretty horrible



2” at 500 yards is not horrible. It’s far from the best but not horrible. I guess I should have clarified in the original post.

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its on the small plate Saturday !! clap


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Not bad Chris and good to know when you need to clean it. Pretty extreme degredation but I think you are good for the intended purpose. Look forward to seeing you Sunday.


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Originally Posted by Buzzsaw
its on the small plate Saturday !! clap



Sunday, and historically I perform poor under pressure then make excuses. I’m going for the big plate!

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Originally Posted by wp75169
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its on the small plate Saturday !! clap



Sunday, and historically I perform poor under pressure then make excuses. I’m going for the big plate!


You might have to venture over to the 5” plate a bit…..last shoot took 21 pts. to make the shoot off.


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Originally Posted by P_102
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its on the small plate Saturday !! clap



Sunday, and historically I perform poor under pressure then make excuses. I’m going for the big plate!


You might have to venture over to the 5” plate a bit…..last shoot took 21 pts. to make the shoot off.

how do you remember this chit? I'm going straight to the smally. popcorn


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That might be a mistake in 10-15 mph winds, Buzz. Last time a couple guys went straight for the smaller targets in the shoot off and missed and had trouble catching up to the ones that stayed on the big target.


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