It’s a great round

That was a good podcast. After watching it, I put my hair in a bun and got my white framed glasses out. Ordered me a new Creedmoor, can’t have to many.

ROFL... I love my 6.5 CM (well, not really many calibers I don't enjoy shooting to be fair) but that's still funny

The video makes it clear the 6.5 CM was created to put holes in paper and hit metal targets at extended distances. Hunters have since discovered there’s not a better example where rifle bullets made to punch holes in paper don’t necessarily perform well on game animals. While some rifle calibers seem more forgiving in this regard, hunters should do their homework before deciding on a 6.5 CM load intended to take down wild game. In fact, there have been quite a few discussions here that focused on that very issue with this very popular caliber. While these have often ended as pissing matches in defense of the caliber, there are some excellent YouTube videos that demonstrate how specific loads perform in the field. And of course, there are always word of mouth revelations from those who make or purchase reloads.

The bullet is a much more important variable than the cartridge

I've yet to shoot anything that hasn't died fast with the 143ELDX. YMMV

Yep. The questions are:

What bullet?
Where does it hit?
How fast is it going when it hits?

Nothing else matters.

Same here. I’ve killed multiple hogs with only one shot using that bullet. The farthest they’ve made it is 15 yards.

Nobody tell the 6.5x55, it thinks it’s a big game cartridge still.

They used that because it was what was available and not because it was the best choice.

The 6.5X55 was widely available, designed in 1892 and became a military cartridge in 1894. As a Military cartridge it was widely available and still is. With the bullets of the day heavy for caliber cup and core bullets velocities were within the bullet of the day effectiveness and long high sectional density bullets work well beyond what many of todays generations would think. Heck a lot of elephants were killed with the smaller 6.5X54 MS. Rifles of the day generally had open sights and ranges rarely reached where people try to these days. Take away the scopes and rifles of today with range finders and there would not be nearly as many long range shooters and hunters as there are today.

Kinda funny to me the 6.5X55 can be loaded for a modern rifle so chambered a little faster using a bit more powder than the Creedmoor round that pretty much duplicates it in effect.

What can be done with the 6.5 Creedmoor that cannot be done with a 6.5X55 in a modern strong rifle? Nothing other than fit in a short action

One thing that the Creedmoor can do that the 6.5X55 can’t do, is be so popular that quality ammo is available in nearly every store that sells quality ammo.

Maybe get more firings without the need to trim brass? Truthfully, not much. But what can the sweede do that the creedmoor can't? They are almost ballistic twins.

I think the Swede in a modern firearm can walk away from the Crede at the same pressures.

That’s like saying the 264 win mag can walk away from the 260 rem, yet here we are and neither of those are commonly available either.

Yes, it’s exactly like that. But I didn’t hear anyone ask what the Mag could do that the .260 couldn’t.

The Creedmoor in my opinion is the best cartridge introduced in my memory, it’s not like I’m knocking it. Hornady made it great. That kind of support would have brought many defunct cartridges to the forefront. Including the mentioned .260 Remington.

Hornady's genius

Good Factory ammo and brass life is probably the best aspects of the Creedmoor, Good cartridge but for most hunters the Factory ammo is the biggest. For reloaders brass life before trimming is an advantage.

The 6.5X55, 260 Remington and 6.5 Creedmoor are basically ballistic triplets for hunting they all can do the same job, but with Hornady backing and producing good factory ammo for it and great marketing it jumped into very high popularity.

A case for the 6.5X47 being as good as or better could be made of the Creedmoor accuracy and consistency at least. But it lacks the factory might of Hornady on something they really want to promote of their cartridge.

6.5X47L won't tolerate the powder charge of the Creedmoor. At least not keep using your brass for quite a few firings.

The 6.4X47L is a phenomenal cartridge. I built one for my daughter. Over 80% of hunters/shooters are way too concerned with muzzle velocity. Tell them the 6.5X47L is running the same bullet as the 6.5 Creedmoor and they will listen. Tell them it's 80 fps slower at the muzzle, and they wonder why it even survives in a 6.5 Creedmoor world.

One of the first to use a small rifle primer in a .470" bolt face.
Insanely consistent shooting. Extremely low ES (the only long range cartridge I've ever seen a 5 shot group put down an ES of 0) None of that matters to to Fudds. Its slower, so it's a looser.

A hand loaded 6.4X47L will be making a whole lot more MV than a factory 6.5 Creedmoor. They don't care. They buy ammo off the shelves. And it's all watered down.

I reload and I get it with many cartridges that are way better than the Creedmoor, but 90 percent of the people I know that shoot don’t reload. That’s why I think the Creedmoor is so popular, ammo on the shelf.

I also like to go fast, that’s why I’m trying to move to the 6mm Creedmoor, but I’ve also found not nearly as much popularity there. Not the same support. Not nearly as many components to use. Probably have to be a reloaded in that group.

The biggest part I don’t get is why all the hate for such a good cartridge, especially on here. It seems like everybody should love it, sit by your feeder a 100 yds out, can’t miss. Shoot some steel at 500, works great. Feeds well in an AR platform. It’s almost a no brainer.

That is exactly why the 6.5 Creedmoor is so popular.

Marketing be damned, the ammo is on the shelves.

Remington never learned that lesson, over many decades.

Nuff said….

Seriously, it’s the internet legends and Texas Dan’s internet “experts” is why I hate the Gaymoor. Most aren’t knowledgeable enough to realize it’s not that special and quite frankly is anemic. But factory ammo shooters believe it’s signs of the second coming.

Now, neck that dude down to 22 or 6 and magic happens but that’s because it picks up a whole bunch of speed.

Fudds.

They don't have a legitimate, good reason.

Exactly like Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Creedmoor Derangement Syndrome