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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: txtrophy85] #8890167 07/27/23 08:03 PM
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EVs not ready for road trips, good for local driving like a golf cart, charge at home over night. Any other use of one at this time is kinda dumb.


Hopefully not before I'm gone, but I can see a return to the days when people take trains for long trips and only use cars to get around town.

Even today's diesel locomotives use electric motors to drive the wheels. All the diesel engines do is drive electric generators.



Trains and public transportation is a great way to control the masses


So is shutting off the electricity so people can’t charge their electric cars. Wouldn’t be difficult to manufacture an energy crisis to control people protesting, etc.

Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Stump_jumper] #8890178 07/27/23 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stump_jumper
I have heard that the batteries don't hold a charge well in high temps.


holding charge? not true with modern lithium batteries;

HOWEVER, high-temps can slow down charging because it's the charging temp that can be a problem! (prolly the issue the OP ran into . . . )

Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890181 07/27/23 08:17 PM
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Decent pickup? Did you call it a pickup?!

Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890185 07/27/23 08:23 PM
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EVs probably have their place just like golf carts do. They don't have the same capabilities as a fossil fueled vehicle. The trucks are kind of a joke because they cannot really pull anything.

If you don't want one, then don't buy one.

It's also a developing technology. Be interesting to see 10 and 20 years from now.

Who knows whether it's fad or future at this point.


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8890193 07/27/23 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TurkeyHunter
EVs probably have their place just like golf carts do. They don't have the same capabilities as a fossil fueled vehicle. The trucks are kind of a joke because they cannot really pull anything.

If you don't want one, then don't buy one.

It's also a developing technology. Be interesting to see 10 and 20 years from now.

Who knows whether it's fad or future at this point.


Until you address every issue listed in this thread it is just a fad.

It won't be long before those that bought them finally fess up to what a horrible mistake it was, tax credit or not. You simply rarely ever read a happy story about one, unless it is a new owner to ashamed to admit buyer's remorse, and then sales will fall like a rock.

Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890195 07/27/23 08:42 PM
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Musk said it would take 10 years for an ev to break even with a gas powered car....... but by then you had better sell it before you have to replace the battery...

Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890221 07/27/23 09:09 PM
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My first electric vehicle experience was driving a Porsche. It was a blast.


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: TXHOGSLAYER] #8890245 07/27/23 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
My first electric vehicle experience was driving a Porsche. It was a blast.


That would be scary with the quick availability of power. I cannot imagine.


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: TXHOGSLAYER] #8890257 07/27/23 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
My first electric vehicle experience was driving a Porsche. It was a blast.


I bet that was a blast, but would you buy it?


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: S.A. hunter] #8890265 07/27/23 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by S.A. hunter
Musk said it would take 10 years for an ev to break even with a gas powered car........

I suspect he means economically, when it becomes cheaper to drive an EV, that is when it becomes mainstream, and that will happen with more innovation and scale.

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Musk said it would take 10 years for an ev to break even with a gas powered car........

I suspect he means economically, when it becomes cheaper to drive an EV, that is when it becomes mainstream, and that will happen with more innovation and scale.

Price of the EV is so much more than gas powered

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My first electric vehicle experience was driving a Porsche. It was a blast.


I bet that was a blast, but would you buy it?



Absolutely not. First, I can’t afford to…
Second, it kept giving me error messages and telling me to take it to the dealership.

Plus, the guy letting me drive it kept telling me stories of him running out of battery. It took him 36 hours to get from Dallas to Houston.


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: TXHOGSLAYER] #8890305 07/27/23 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TXHOGSLAYER
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My first electric vehicle experience was driving a Porsche. It was a blast.


I bet that was a blast, but would you buy it?



Absolutely not. First, I can’t afford to…
Second, it kept giving me error messages and telling me to take it to the dealership.

Plus, the guy letting me drive it kept telling me stories of him running out of battery. It took him 36 hours to get from Dallas to Houston.


There is progress for you!


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890307 07/27/23 11:01 PM
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I would consider one for short commutes. My transformer pops a fuse couple time a year. I doubt if I could get any more power off grid. I could just shut off a large load like air conditioning when charging car.

But after the divorce, I couldn't afford an EV.


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890330 07/27/23 11:26 PM
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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: DannyB] #8890333 07/27/23 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyB
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EVs probably have their place just like golf carts do. They don't have the same capabilities as a fossil fueled vehicle. The trucks are kind of a joke because they cannot really pull anything.

If you don't want one, then don't buy one.

It's also a developing technology. Be interesting to see 10 and 20 years from now.

Who knows whether it's fad or future at this point.


Until you address every issue listed in this thread it is just a fad.

It won't be long before those that bought them finally fess up to what a horrible mistake it was, tax credit or not. You simply rarely ever read a happy story about one, unless it is a new owner to ashamed to admit buyer's remorse, and then sales will fall like a rock.


I wonder if early automobiles, generation 0, garnered the same feedback?


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: MBradford] #8890336 07/27/23 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MBradford
This was my first electric vehicle experience...


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Did you ever have sizzlers?


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890353 07/27/23 11:56 PM
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I have had two, the Model 3 and Y, sold both for a decent profit at the height.
I enjoyed both, liked the 3 more. I did have the 240v home charger, cost about $45 a month to charge them both about 800-1000 miles each month.
That said, there is no way in hell I would ever go EV only. I charged once at a super charger just cause it was free and I wanted to see how fast it would charge. That experience was one of the most depressing sites I had seen. Everyone just sitting in their cars, slaves to the charger.


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Insuring those EV's will prove to be a nightmare IMO.

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This was my first electric vehicle experience...


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Did you ever have sizzlers?


Not familiar with those.

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Originally Posted by MBradford
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This was my first electric vehicle experience...


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Did you ever have sizzlers?


Not familiar with those.


https://hotwheels.fandom.com/wiki/Sizzlers


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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890436 07/28/23 01:27 AM
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Re: My first Electric Vehicle experience [Re: Whammer7] #8890590 07/28/23 12:57 PM
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When I was going to school earning my engineering degree my dream was to make electric cars; that is until I actually built one on my own. I put a 360v 90 horsepower DC electric motor into a 1979 Mazda RX7 and then filled the whole car with wheelchair batteries. The electric motor was limited to 3600 RPM so my top speed with the existing gearing and tire size was approximately 70mph. Coincidentally my range was also 70 miles which was pretty pathetic considering that I was carrying 1400 lb worth of batteries in the car. To put that into perspective the 79 Mazda RX7 from the factory weighed approximately 2400 lb. All of the engineering challenges that I could not overcome are the exact same limitations that no one has been able to overcome and they are simply inherent in the technology. If anyone would ever sit down and do a legitimate energy budget it would immediately show that electric cars are a step backwards.

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Probably why electric cars didn’t do well even back in early 20th century.



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