He didn’t address you, or quote you.

He met aggressive intimidation with restraint. Restraint Supported by others on the train. The minimal force he felt necessary. Yes it ended badly. That’s for GJ to decide at this point.

If this is like Texas. By the DA filing charges, they are the ones to present to GJ. If left alone NYOD would present to GJ. Should have went to GJ through natural course.


These activists will never be satisfied with anything less than max sentence on murder. Activists already claim he was executed and lynched.

Not sure where I land on this one. I support the marine for having the balls to step up, most won’t even the keyboard tough guys on here. But maybe given the duration it was excessive. But I don’t feel sorry for the victim either.

Yes, this was always going to come down to the duration and magnitude as to reasonableness.

I guess they should've let him up so he could go back to where he started.

When do you reach the point where its okay to snuff out a life...?

The guy on the subway thought it was appropriate, and now he has to hope others that have his future in their hands feel the same way.......

This is what it comes down to..... opinions here matter not.

You sure come down big with your assumptions. I have not seen anything where that guy was trying to kill the other.

And yes, the outcome was extremely unfortunate.

so now we are at pre-mediated murder interesting.

how many times does someone have to shoot you before you can claim self defense?

If it’s one your already dead…

reverse the rules in thus instance, the young man waited for the crazy guy to put him in a submissive position first before defending himself… now he is dead.


I have no idea why i'm arguing with a man that wouldnt defend himself or others on a subway

Bad things can happen when going after someone's neck....

It doesn't matter what you or I think..... he put himself in a coin flip game, and thats one place I wouldn't want to be.

Also yall are ASSUMING the homeless guy was going to do someone harm.......

Definitely not saying that. But when you’ve been choked out for more than a minute I’m pretty sure you aren’t gonna fight back much, especially with 3-4 men to hold you at bay

Well, he pretty much said he was going to do something that would land him in jail and he didn't give a fluck.

No one knows how they ended up on the ground., or at least I don’t. I assume we have all seen only the clip shown to everyone.

1. He was not charged by NYPD.
2. In that case, it would have be presented to GJ by NYPD.
3. By the DA filing case, they now present their case to DA and why it’s a crime.
4. 100k bond for a self defense case by a guy with no history. By a city that opposes bail. Ok.

These are the politics people don’t see.

Kind of an idiotic statement when the guy was threatening people. Are you suggesting a person has to wait to be assaulted before they defend themselves?

Maybe, but I've only seen that once, and well after things had blown up, she is also anonymous from what I read.

Honest question, have you responded physically to everyone in your life that has threatened you?

I knew we had some bleeding hearts around here but it appears we have more than I thought. The ignore function has new members,

God no! I grew up the private school, country club life.....

Now, it makes sense.

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Funny how the vaccine forcing crowd are now talking about overreach Critical thinking and logic are all but gone in this country, sad.

Confucius says…continuing to argue with them, makes it fuzzy as to who the dumbass really is.

Yep, I bowed out yesterday. Not worth my time.

I’m all about defending myself or those around me if in danger. Like someone said earlier, first mistake was being in NYC, nuff said

Several news stories about the guy being a Michael Jackson impersonator. All I know is, he's nailing it perfectly right now.