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Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: skinnerback] #8731082 11/10/22 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by skinnerback
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I'd say 300 BLK/7.62x39 if most shots are under 100 yards, 6.5 Grendel if you might be over.



No issues with an 18" suppressed 300 BLK under 200 yrds. After that, it's worthless.

Most night time pig hunting around here, shots are 50-150 yrds max. My longest shot on a big running boar at night with the BLK was 165 yards and he was done. Rolled him.

The BLK is a very capable 200 yard weapon with a good bullet.

200 yrds at night is a long way, most are killed (around here) under 100 yrds, 150 is stretching it out with digital night vision.

I don't own a weapon mounted thermal unit yet, so can't speak from experience on that. I've only used thermal scanners.

What bullet you like?


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Didn't we have a guy on here say the 30-30 was the only rifle you really ever need? Who was that?

Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: garyrapp55] #8731465 11/10/22 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by garyrapp55
Didn't we have a guy on here say the 30-30 was the only rifle you really ever need? Who was that?


Oh you know.
The usual purveyor of nonsense.


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Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: onlysmith&wesson] #8731626 11/11/22 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by onlysmith&wesson
Originally Posted by skinnerback
Originally Posted by 65x55
I'd say 300 BLK/7.62x39 if most shots are under 100 yards, 6.5 Grendel if you might be over.



No issues with an 18" suppressed 300 BLK under 200 yrds. After that, it's worthless.

Most night time pig hunting around here, shots are 50-150 yrds max. My longest shot on a big running boar at night with the BLK was 165 yards and he was done. Rolled him.

The BLK is a very capable 200 yard weapon with a good bullet.

200 yrds at night is a long way, most are killed (around here) under 100 yrds, 150 is stretching it out with digital night vision.

I don't own a weapon mounted thermal unit yet, so can't speak from experience on that. I've only used thermal scanners.

What bullet you like?



110 gr Barnes Tac-Tx.

Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: DustyArmadillo] #8731791 11/11/22 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DustyArmadillo
Anyone had luck killing hogs with a .223?

Would be hunting at night with a thermal and wondering if I should step up to a 7.62x39 upper.

Really like to pull the trigger so the 223 is more appealing.

But I like getting hogs on the ground more than pulling the trigger.

What think ye?

All opinions welcome.

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PS, the rig is an AR15 with a 10.5" barrel (suppressed) in case you're wondering


I’d say for your stated use and preference of getting them on the ground, probably step it up from a 223.

Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: J.G.] #8731800 11/11/22 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by J.G.
Originally Posted by garyrapp55
Didn't we have a guy on here say the 30-30 was the only rifle you really ever need? Who was that?


Oh you know.
The usual purveyor of nonsense.


30-30 is a fine weapon for hogs or am I missing something?

Granted it’s not for everything and there are way more advanced rounds.


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Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: DustyArmadillo] #8731803 11/11/22 05:32 AM
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I don’t like the 223. Don’t misunderstand me I love ARs but the 223 caliber never impressed me. You could probably find a story of someone killing an elephant with a pellet gun but the fact is the 223 is a pretty poor choice for shooting deer and pigs. Can it do it? Sure but there are so many better choices. 223 fmj ammo is relatively inexpensive it when you step up to the more quality hunting bullets it really isn’t a whole lot cheaper than more capable calibers.

Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: TurkeyHunter] #8731898 11/11/22 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TurkeyHunter
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Originally Posted by garyrapp55
Didn't we have a guy on here say the 30-30 was the only rifle you really ever need? Who was that?


Oh you know.
The usual purveyor of nonsense.


30-30 is a fine weapon for hogs or am I missing something?

Granted it’s not for everything and there are way more advanced rounds.


It was said .30-30 is ALL you need to do everything. And from a source that threw his U.S. flag in the trash and posts false information that confuses people, that dont know better to ignore him.


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Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: DustyArmadillo] #8731914 11/11/22 01:57 PM
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I'm not a fan of 223 for game larger than coyotes. I've had several people bring their AR-15s in 223 to our place to shoot pigs and in every instance we couldn't find the pig that ran off in the East TX jungle. Brain shots will work but I've found that most people aren't capable of making that shot with their ARs and Night Vision scopes. Most of our stands are over 100 yds from feeders and only a couple shorter than that. I try to put 223 shooters in the closer stands. I use a 308 Win AR and bolt action and have killed a load of pigs with them. All but 3 were DRT and one of those just ran a few yards. As others have mentioned, shot placement is the key to success. My son uses an AR-15 350 Legend and has had great success with it. I tried a AR 350 Legend for a while and killed about a dozen hogs with it. It is a great hog caliber.


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Originally Posted by J.G.


It was said .30-30 is ALL you need to do everything.


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This thread makes me want a new boom stick.

But what I really want to do is use the CVA Kentucky Long Rifle 45 Cal I built from a kit back in 1979 in junior high school, and in wood shop class over a couple of weeks as a "for credit" project.

Principal came running after me as I was leaving the school with the finished muzzleloader. He wanted to see it. Gave me a compliment on workmanship. I shoot it every few years and have taken a few doe when I was younger. Makes quite a hole.


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.243, .308, 30-06, I have shot and killed hogs dead with each. Shot goes in the neck between the ear and the shoulder and they die.

Re: Adequate Killing Power on Hogs? [Re: DustyArmadillo] #8735741 11/16/22 05:14 PM
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.22 short behind the ear.


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22 short will make a pig dead. When I was a kid we had pigs that we would butcher in autumn. We put the barrel up between the eyes of the pig and pulled the trigger. Didn’t need 2 shots. Why a 22? That’s all we had.


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My 1st hog kill was along time ago using a Model 70 in 257 Rbt's and Remmy Rnd Nose ammo, the only ammo I could find for it as I recall. A buddy and I were on a new lease by ourselves that had super dense briar thickets and road cuts thru the creek bottom's. I took the flip of a coin and took the north fence line blind that faced the road in from the south. I'd killed a nice 4pt WT early on that morning down the west fence line . Moved the carcass closer to the blind to keep the hogs from finding my deer as recc'd by the landowner. Almost on que an hour+ later I hear the hogs on the adjacent property getting closer to the hole in the fence they used. A nice upper mid sized porker came up to the fence line and rooted a while in a fresh bulldozer track, smelled me and made a run for the monster briar thicket and wheel track to my left and I rolled him from about 40 yards. As I got out of the blind he got up and staggered into the briar thicket.

So I sat back down and waited a while for him to expire, but occasionally could still hear him moving around. I got out of the blind again and looked at the bloody track that entered the finger thick 50-75' tall briar on my hands and knee's with 2 bullets left. Saw him again at about 100' away and missed him when he turned his head on to me and missed the shoulder I'd shot at but spooked him again. So I crawled deeper into the thicket, and he staggered up to his feet and was trying to charge me at about 60-70 feet and with my last bullet put it under his right eye , aiming down the side of the barrel as he faced me and stood still. Scared the poowah outta me when I realized I'd gone empty on ammo....and the wounded hog was about 25 yrds away from me trying to get up again.
Took my partner & I about 3 hours to get the hog outta the briar patch...but I'll never do sumthin that stupid again and run outta ammo face to face with a large hog clicking his choppers at me . The Rbt's had broken the right shoulder in 2 places but did not penetrate the shoulders deep enough to get into the heart/lung area. The hog was much larger than the usual one's we were seeing, and had to be dragged back to camp by the partner's 1/2 ton pickup & took both of us to get him off the ground and onto the pully system. He ate good too!

OBTW the M70 Rbt's almost got traded off before the next Deer Season when I could not find any Rbt's ammo except for the Round Nose stuff, but kept it only because I started reloading better ammo for it rather than depend on finding any ammo for it, and eventually I shot the barrel out of it plumb smooth.
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