The Declaration of Independence was an act of sedition and treason. Had they been caught, the signers would have been tried and likely executed under those charges.

Have you looked up the definition of sedition?

Many of them died for what they believed in. You act like it was a ho-hum cake walk for those that pledged their lives to fight for what they believed in. I think the majority of them died or lost everything. I bet they’d all do it again without thought.

The long and the short is that it's not going to happen. People erroneously dumb this down to a fault. We'll fight 'em! Really? With what? All the military bases is surely your answer. Those don't belong to Texas. They simply happen to be in Texas. You really think all of us red necks have a leg to stand on against the United States military? Lol. The United States won't let it happen. There are other facets to success or failure but they don't matter simply based on my previous point. I'd love to see that I'm wrong. But I won't.

That’s a really nice website but it doesn’t change the facts about the legality of succession..

I’ve not expressed a personal agreement or disagreement with succession but anyone who thinks it could happen according to the link is ignorant. Like a land of make believe.

People entering our country (illegally) by the millions seems to be happening just fine. So there IS a way....whether or not the rest of the republic likes it or not...if things get bad enough. Hate to see our Great State turning into 'little Commiefornia' but its happening incrementally already.

It is to late. We missed the window about 30 years ago.

Here's the way I look at it. Popular support grows, and so the legislature calls for a referendum. Think Scotland 2014 or Brexit. Pending the outcome, negotiations begin. Only a fool would wish for war, but there are certainly fools in DC. If the US takes military action to prevent a peaceful referendum and withdrawal, that puts them on par with Russia and China.

I think we can fix things better if we circle the wagons. I don't want to try and fix Texas by asking Cali or NJ their opinion. If you're here, and you came here from Cali or whatever, you get a voice because now you're here.

Did y'all realize a bill was filed to this effect last session? Did you know the Republican Party of Texas platform has two planks (33 and 225) that call for a referendum? We're not talking "sedition," unless voting is sedition.

I'm working from a laptop in the car while my wife drives, not ideal for precise work on this thread. Some other time I'll break down why I don't think Texas v. White or the US Civil war are relevant, and lay out the US and Texas constitutional grounds that support a referendum.

Oh it's too hot for the transplants?

Great, GTFO!

Generations of my family slept outside in the summer. They were high rollin when they finally had a screened in porch.

Through peaceful and parliamentary procedures have at it. Give it a try. We have that right.

Our state, our decision.
I would support my fellow Texans.

Succession, that's where you lost me.

Sounds so good and daddy always said, "If it sounds to good to be true, it probably isn't." If we were to secede, every other red state would suffer the consequences and America would be left with a simple blue majority population and electoral vote. What would be left would then go down the tubes. Why don't we just go ahead and shoot the finger at OK, FL, SD and other states with generally conservative values?

Ain't gonna happen.

Most of the people talking about fighting are exhausted after a weekend at deer camp. However, recently sheep herders and rice farmers were rather successful against the might of the U.S.

And poppy growers.

Oh yes, the cash crop coming from that little mountain paradise.

Exactly.

Do you honestly not know what happened the last time Texas peacefully voted to leave the union?

When and I mean when (Ain’t gonna happen peacefully) the union breaks up America is gone. You’d have British, Russia, Chinese all fighting one another through proxies. (As we have done for a century) trying to get their piece of the pie.

It’s a pipe dream dude. Give it up

I would be for it if the USA would allow it to happen peacefully.

I don’t see that ever happening.

About as likely as Texas letting the counties in the Permian vote to join New Mexico.

And joined the confederacy.
I don't think there will be a confederation of states leave at once.

We’ll just claim our independence, and when the U.S. invades Texas to claim what they think is theirs, we’ll play the victim. Then, the U.S. will feel obligated to support Texas with billions of dollars. At that point, how could they continue with any sort of attack?

That’s how this works, right? Seems like that happened, recently, elsewhere.

We could call ourselves texkainians

Yup