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Re: Uvalde update
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07/12/22 11:26 PM
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No way I could watch it with sound. No way. Kids screams were muted.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 12:15 AM
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Wtf!!! The one guy goes over and gets hand sanitizer and rubs on his hands as the shooter is down there killing kids! Get the F out!
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 12:19 AM
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I saw a couple vaginas on that short clip of film
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 12:26 PM
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Wtf!!! The one guy goes over and gets hand sanitizer and rubs on his hands as the shooter is down there killing kids! Get the F out! Its gonna take a lot more than sanitizer to get the blood off those officers hands.....
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 01:47 PM
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99% of the time you probably don't need hardened LEO's on a school campus. It would seem obvious that schools must have a plan in place that includes nearby LEO's responding quickly during that remaining 1% of the time.
Earlier this week I spoke with the Mayor of a nearby community where five of our schools are located. He told me no one from our local school system has contacted his office to begin putting together an Active Shooter Response Plan that includes use of their officers. As was likely the case in Uvalde, I suspect any response by local LEO agencies outside the school officers will be "ad hoc".
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 02:27 PM
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Thankful I work for a district that has armed staff and police presence.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 03:04 PM
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Wow that is sad and pathetic response. The video of the school shooting starts at 1:30 minutes into the video.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 03:18 PM
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Simply unbelievable. How do you have nearly 2 dozen officers armed to the teeth and with shields standing in a hallway doing NOTHING while a sick sonofabitch is continuing to kill innocent children and teachers.............HOW?!
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 03:19 PM
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What really chaps me off is how easy the shooter got into the building. Schools need to be treated just like TSA check points.
@Concho...where ya at? Cat got your tongue? These are your people right?
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 03:26 PM
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This is a longer version that is all video of the shooting which starts at 53 seconds into it. It is hard to watch or listen to because of all of the shooting it has in it before and after the police got there. Again it is so hard to fathom why those policemen did not aggressively act sooner?
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 03:27 PM
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What really chaps me off is how easy the shooter got into the building. Schools need to be treated just like TSA check points.
@Concho...where ya at? Cat got your tongue? These are your people right? Yup Far too often even supposedly secured doors are far from it. It has happened at my wife's school with an exterior door had a bad closure on it. I told her not to tell anyone verbally about it but instead email it to the principal. She did and it was fixed that same day with a new closure installed on it. The bottom line is that if there is glass in these exterior doors and it is not bullet proof there IS NOT SECURITY. I don't give a damn how well that steel door locks if you can break out the glass with a small hammer, rock, whatever and reach right inside and pull the panic bar towards you then you are in. They either need to use solid steel doors or only bullet proof glass for all exterior doors to schools!
High fence, low fence, no fence, it really doesn't matter as long as you're hunting!
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 03:39 PM
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@ 11:37...get in the gawd damn fight!!!
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 03:52 PM
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Well one thing is for sure, if the politicians run the show- all they will do is try to pass a lot of gun control laws. Pat themselves on the back and go on to something else. Totally a waste of time. Maybe there ought to be some citizen discussion groups/ town meetings where everyone discusses all options. None of these shooters wanders into a police station to shoot it up- they prey on the unarmed and defenseless. Since everyone wants to help stop this- plenty of man power, just need some leadership. I still think an all volunteer group (that is- won't raise taxes) of citizens assigned by local police to sit in school halls as guards might work.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 04:04 PM
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I still think an all volunteer group (that is- won't raise taxes) of citizens assigned by local police to sit in school halls as guards might work. 100% agree. Retirees with clean back ground checks would be a perfect resource pool.
I am still looking for the perfect apron, one with reinforced knee areas would be perfect.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 04:19 PM
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What really chaps me off is how easy the shooter got into the building. Schools need to be treated just like TSA check points.
@Concho...where ya at? Cat got your tongue? These are your people right? I refuse to debate it any longer, said from Day 1 the response was incorrect, said the ISD Police Chief had a bunch of questions to answer, but I refuse to condemn every officer on the scene that day like you and others have.....everyone there will have to live with their decision, I have said numerous times that I know what I would have done, been there, I would have most likely been asking for forgiveness after the fact for violating the chiefs orders.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 04:26 PM
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What stands out.
3 minutes is exaggeration. Kids probably being shot at 11-33-34. Saw first officer at 11-35-57. Closer to 2-45 seconds. No need to exaggerate this to 3 minutes.
Only two officers went fully down hall. They were doing pretty good at first. Those two were in fight mode. I’m not sure, my phone screen is small. But looks like tan officer had on a helmet. Maybe not. Might have been hit in helmet.
Those two, took on fire and retreated. Which is natural to move back. I’m ok with that. But, they should have regrouped right then and went back.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 07:15 PM
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Simply unbelievable. How do you have nearly 2 dozen officers armed to the teeth and with shields standing in a hallway doing NOTHING while a sick sonofabitch is continuing to kill innocent children and teachers.............HOW?!
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/13/22 10:49 PM
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Meanwhile, 5000 people have been killed in car wrecks since this incident and nobody GAF. This whole thing has been nothing but a way for the democrats to legislate more gun control. That's why this is still in the news everyday.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/14/22 12:30 AM
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Meanwhile, 5000 people have been killed in car wrecks since this incident and nobody GAF. This whole thing has been nothing but a way for the democrats to legislate more gun control. That's why this is still in the news everyday. You’re right about that. Pretty convenient huh? They got a little more out of it, and they’ll get a little more out of the next one.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/14/22 12:39 AM
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Meanwhile, 5000 people have been killed in car wrecks since this incident and nobody GAF. This whole thing has been nothing but a way for the democrats to legislate more gun control. That's why this is still in the news everyday. Really odd comparison.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/14/22 01:15 AM
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those look like some fat azz scared cops. i think they have body armor on but still? dont departments have a fit for duty weight? bad deal fo sure.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/14/22 01:26 AM
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those look like some fat azz scared cops. i think they have body armor on but still? dont departments have a fit for duty weight? bad deal fo sure. The failures seen have nothing to do with their weight or physical fitness.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/14/22 01:36 AM
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those look like some fat azz scared cops. i think they have body armor on but still? dont departments have a fit for duty weight? bad deal fo sure. The failures seen have nothing to do with their weight or physical fitness. Those big boys moved pretty quickly when they were shot at.
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Re: Uvalde update
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07/14/22 01:52 AM
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After finally seeing some video....only one word comes to mind Cowards. It’s really that simple.
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