What is REALLY disgusting is all the Internet heroes who claim to know all the answers.

Best Answer in the last few lines. Yes kinda a DA for asking permission but if he wasn’t competent in his shot


A reasonable officer would conclude in this case, based upon the totality of the circumstances, that use of deadly force was warranted. Furthermore, the UPD officer was approximately 148 yards from the west hall exterior door. One-hundred and forty-eight yards

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is well within the effective range of an AR-15 platform. The officer did comment that he was concerned that if he missed his shot, the rounds could have penetrated the school and injured students. We also note that current State of Texas standards for patrol rifle qualifications do not require officers to fire their rifles from more than 100 yards away from the target. It is, therefore, possible that the officer had never fired his rifle at a target that was that far away. Ultimately, the decision to use deadly force always lies with the officer who will use the force. If the officer was not confident that he could both hit his target and of his backdrop if he missed, he should not have fired.

You should sit in a dark room and set a timer for the amount of time those officers sat out there without going in under the assumption that every shot heard was a child lost. Count up the shots and let us know how you felt during that exercise. Defend away, justify away, it's just pathetic what went on.

Do they carry FMJ ammo and can it penetrate cinder block? Also, are their rifles scoped?

Have you even taken the time to read my posts? I would seriously doubt it since I was one of the first to post the response was wrong and the waiting cost lives. I am interested in only holding the actual guilty at fault. Stating that every officer responding to the Uvalde scene is responsible for the results, is not very intelligent or honest.

I'd say 150 yards without a scope would be stretching it, though, seeing someone running toward a school with a rifle might push me to try. We only had one day training in the Air Force. shot a "simulated" 100 yards that was realy 25 yards with .22 ammo.

The ones that actually went in in a timely manner arent the ones anyone is talking about. When you have a flat tire do you thank the other 3 for having air? We are all talking about the flat tires.

A good experienced shooter could have and probably would have taken the shot, especially if they had foresight of what was about to happen. There are probably many folks here who are great shots, practice often, and know their own and their rifle's limitations. A 150 shot with a 2-3 minute of angle red dot on a stock Ar15 is a little more of a challenge than with a 2500.00 bolt gun with a 1500.00 scope.

A good experienced shooter could have and probably would have taken the shot, especially if they had foresight of what was about to happen. There are probably many folks here who are great shots, practice often, and know their own and their rifle's limitations. A 150 shot with a 2-3 minute of angle red dot on a stock Ar15 is a little more of a challenge than with a 2500.00 bolt gun with a 1500.00 scope.

I'd say 150 yards without a scope would be stretching it, though, seeing someone running toward a school with a rifle might push me to try. We only had one day training in the Air Force. shot a "simulated" 100 yards that was realy 25 yards with .22 ammo.

Concho...I stand behind everything I have posted (fired and prosecuted). Kids died that day because no one did their job until it was too late.

A good experienced shooter could have and probably would have taken the shot, especially if they had foresight of what was about to happen. There are probably many folks here who are great shots, practice often, and know their own and their rifle's limitations. A 150 shot with a 2-3 minute of angle red dot on a stock Ar15 is a little more of a challenge than with a 2500.00 bolt gun with a 1500.00 scope.

I'm not saying I'm a great shot, but I can run IPSC plates from 50 yards all the way out to 300 with a 10.5" SBR with an Aimpoint T1 2MOA RDS. From 50-200 there is little to no change in hold at 300 you have to hold on the neck area for center mass hit. Also at 150 yards I really don't think 5.56 would penetrate a cinderblock wall unless maybe they were steel core penetrators, which I'm pretty sure the police don't use. I would have taken the shot, because I don't think I could have lived with myself if I didn't.

At the 22 matches we have every month we have new shooters hitting steel at 350 yards with 22LR, shooters that have never shot past 50 yards with a 22LR. All it takes is a little practice with your rifle to be confident in it. I'd say these LEO's need more practice 10 times out of 10 you take that shot.

DPS burned a lot of bridges with this one.