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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: bigbob_ftw]
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07/06/22 10:48 PM
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Thread carefully men, some of you are making cases for Redflag laws Dan bongino had a spot on take on them today. Ask yourself, do you trust your government? I havent seen his take but I’m sure it mirrors mine. It’s pandora box that we don’t want opened, because the insane will absolutely use it to do their bidding
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/06/22 10:53 PM
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Exactly my point, when you don’t have to earn a right you have zero respect for it. Every Barney Fife in the country would be looking up info on people he has no reason to and everyone’s info could be shotgunned “Accidentally” onto the web.
Our government is a Donkey Ball POS I wouldn’t trust any farther than I could trust them with a pencil much less any personal info of mine simply at thr fingertips… I’m sure all the alphabet letter guys have access to it anyway but not every rent a cop.
Barney Fife, er, police officers usually have to ask permission from a supervisor to access NCIC information, and they need a legit reason. "Rent-a-Cop" who would that be? Security Guards don't have access, so I assume you are referring to local police, if so shame on you and your kind. I’m not referring to local police, it was a blanketed statement meaning where does it end and I love your “Usually” comment. You made my point for me… . I don’t give a chit about NCIC or the use thr of. Give somebody an inch and they end up taking 47 miles and screwing your pet goat when your at work so the highest ranking cop in the US doesn’t need access to a flipping thing outside his pay grade.. [/quote] You seem like an extremely angry guy about something, I'm not sure what the government has done to you or you believe has been done to you, but most police don't give a rat's behind about your personal information. If you don't agree with taking guns away from nuts like the Highland Park, Illinois guy, we have nothing to talk about, because none of them need a gun, and the information should be available.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Concho]
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07/06/22 11:03 PM
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Exactly my point, when you don’t have to earn a right you have zero respect for it. Every Barney Fife in the country would be looking up info on people he has no reason to and everyone’s info could be shotgunned “Accidentally” onto the web.
Our government is a Donkey Ball POS I wouldn’t trust any farther than I could trust them with a pencil much less any personal info of mine simply at thr fingertips… I’m sure all the alphabet letter guys have access to it anyway but not every rent a cop.
Barney Fife, er, police officers usually have to ask permission from a supervisor to access NCIC information, and they need a legit reason. "Rent-a-Cop" who would that be? Security Guards don't have access, so I assume you are referring to local police, if so shame on you and your kind. I’m not referring to local police, it was a blanketed statement meaning where does it end and I love your “Usually” comment. You made my point for me… . I don’t give a chit about NCIC or the use thr of. Give somebody an inch and they end up taking 47 miles and screwing your pet goat when your at work so the highest ranking cop in the US doesn’t need access to a flipping thing outside his pay grade.. You seem like an extremely angry guy about something, I'm not sure what the government has done to you or you believe has been done to you, but most police don't give a rat's behind about your personal information. If you don't agree with taking guns away from nuts like the Highland Park, Illinois guy, we have nothing to talk about, because none of them need a gun, and the information should be available. [/quote] An angry guy, You keep saying stupid crap like “Usually” and “Most” yet I guess we’re just supposed to trust everyone to do the right thing? You need to stop while your ahead because your not helping your cause. Just a heads up my brothers been a cop for 25 years and my best friends a cop so I’m definitely not anti cop,, I’m anti loosing more rights for somebody else’s issues…
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Ol Thumper]
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07/06/22 11:06 PM
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You seem like an extremely angry guy about something, I'm not sure what the government has done to you or you believe has been done to you, but most police don't give a rat's behind about your personal information. If you don't agree with taking guns away from nuts like the Highland Park, Illinois guy, we have nothing to talk about, because none of them need a gun, and the information should be available. [/quote] An angry guy, You keep saying stupid crap like “Usually” and “Most” yet I guess we’re just supposed to trust everyone to do the right thing? You need to stop while your ahead because your not helping your cause. Just a heads up my brothers been a cop for 25 years and my best friends a cop so I’m definitely not anti cop,, I’m anti loosing more rights for somebody else’s issues… [/quote] I'm not hurting my cause, because I don't have one.....I'll pray for your goat.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Concho]
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07/06/22 11:13 PM
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Now that's a sig line.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/06/22 11:14 PM
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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07/07/22 12:19 AM
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Thread carefully men, some of you are making cases for Redflag laws Dan bongino had a spot on take on them today. Ask yourself, do you trust your government? I havent seen his take but I’m sure it mirrors mine. It’s pandora box that we don’t want opened, because the insane will absolutely use it to do their bidding Yep. How many lists do you want to be on?
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Roll-Tide]
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07/07/22 12:25 AM
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CBS just released a pic of the second rifle that was in the car. Still no pics or mention of make/model of the 1st rifle.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 12:38 AM
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CBS just released a pic of the second rifle that was in the car. Still no pics or mention of make/model of the 1st rifle. The gun that was used to shoot dozens of people in Highland Park on the Fourth of July, killing seven, was a Smith & Wesson M&P15 semiautomatic rifle, which, according to the manufacturer, is an AR-15 style weapon whose initials stand for military and police. A Lake County prosecutor identified the make and model of the firearm at a court hearing Wednesday for Robert E. Crimo III, 21, who was ordered held without bail on murder charges. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7...ic-rifle-fourth-july-parade-robert-crimo
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Roll-Tide]
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07/07/22 12:40 AM
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Considering this government can decide what a woman is. I’m not expecting anything meaningful to ever get done.
I saw New York wants 3 years of social media to get a permit.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 12:42 AM
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CBS just released a pic of the second rifle that was in the car. Still no pics or mention of make/model of the 1st rifle. The gun that was used to shoot dozens of people in Highland Park on the Fourth of July, killing seven, was a Smith & Wesson M&P15 semiautomatic rifle, which, according to the manufacturer, is an AR-15 style weapon whose initials stand for military and police. A Lake County prosecutor identified the make and model of the firearm at a court hearing Wednesday for Robert E. Crimo III, 21, who was ordered held without bail on murder charges. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7...ic-rifle-fourth-july-parade-robert-crimo Thanks
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Roll-Tide]
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07/07/22 03:04 AM
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How could he have had an M&P 15? Arent those bad guns outlawed in that town? Since 2013?
You telling me your laws didn’t work?
Dont get me wrong, this is a tragedy and indont want to make light of the people hurt in this. But i do want to make light of all those calling for more gun laws and regs. Nothing short of banning every gun in the US and prohibiting gun sales would have stopped this. We can not legislate away evil.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Roll-Tide]
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07/07/22 03:22 AM
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There's not any kind of gun restrictions that will stop the shootings Kid should have been in an old fashioned insane asylum, but Instead the parents enabled him and made excuses for him, probably because they were ashamed at having such an out and out loony for a son and family member. Lord help. Can't lose status and standing in the community, not with a pinhead loony in the family
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 03:31 AM
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. In this case it sounds like Dad took on the responsibility. I wonder if the State will go after him for signing the FOID? We will see. Parents are Lawyer'd up......so they are certainly expecting something.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 03:44 AM
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. In this case it sounds like Dad took on the responsibility. I wonder if the State will go after him for signing the FOID? We will see. Parents are Lawyer'd up......so they are certainly expecting something. That should not be a thing and that kids juvi records should have been checked before they signed off on the sale. JMO...
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 01:33 PM
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How could he have had an M&P 15? Arent those bad guns outlawed in that town? Since 2013?
You telling me your laws didn’t work?
Dont get me wrong, this is a tragedy and indont want to make light of the people hurt in this. But i do want to make light of all those calling for more gun laws and regs. Nothing short of banning every gun in the US and prohibiting gun sales would have stopped this. We can not legislate away evil. The red flag laws didn't work because his family refused to prosecute him, that doesn't necessarily work in Texas, and it may well be a poor legal argument in Illinois. You are correct in saying we cannot legislate evil. This shooters dad apparently facilitated the gun card issue.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 01:40 PM
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. In this case it sounds like Dad took on the responsibility. I wonder if the State will go after him for signing the FOID? We will see. Parents are Lawyer'd up......so they are certainly expecting something. That should not be a thing and that kids juvi records should have been checked before they signed off on the sale. JMO... You don't get a juvenile record if the victims (Family) refuse to prosecute.....are you saying all police records should be supplied to the background system? How far do we go? I'm just asking because I don't believe we stop this type behavior until we get back to God and parent become involved, responsible, and stop the enabling.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 03:17 PM
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This shooters dad apparently facilitated the gun card issue. Dad's who were willing to put the fear of God in the minds of their sons were more the norm when I was a kid. Not so common these days. Just part of the wimpification of the American male.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
[Re: Concho]
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07/07/22 03:35 PM
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. In this case it sounds like Dad took on the responsibility. I wonder if the State will go after him for signing the FOID? We will see. Parents are Lawyer'd up......so they are certainly expecting something. That should not be a thing and that kids juvi records should have been checked before they signed off on the sale. JMO... You don't get a juvenile record if the victims (Family) refuse to prosecute.....are you saying all police records should be supplied to the background system? How far do we go? I'm just asking because I don't believe we stop this type behavior until we get back to God and parent become involved, responsible, and stop the enabling. So your best idea is to pray the boogie man away. That's a good one.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 03:37 PM
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This shooters dad apparently facilitated the gun card issue. Dad's who were willing to put the fear of God in the minds of their sons were more the norm when I was a kid. Not so common these days. Just part of the wimpification of the American male. His dad said his son, the shooter, had "good" morals.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 03:40 PM
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CBS just released a pic of the second rifle that was in the car. Still no pics or mention of make/model of the 1st rifle. The gun that was used to shoot dozens of people in Highland Park on the Fourth of July, killing seven, was a Smith & Wesson M&P15 semiautomatic rifle, which, according to the manufacturer, is an AR-15 style weapon whose initials stand for military and police. A Lake County prosecutor identified the make and model of the firearm at a court hearing Wednesday for Robert E. Crimo III, 21, who was ordered held without bail on murder charges. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7...ic-rifle-fourth-july-parade-robert-crimo Interesting, there is a discrepancy here. Apparently it wasn't one of those evil ARs used in the shooting, But a Kel-Tec 2000. Those come in 9mm (lung blower outers) or 40mm. https://www.ammoland.com/2022/07/highland-park-shooter-kel-tec-sub-2000-rifle/Wish they would get stuff straight.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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. In this case it sounds like Dad took on the responsibility. I wonder if the State will go after him for signing the FOID? We will see. Parents are Lawyer'd up......so they are certainly expecting something. That should not be a thing and that kids juvi records should have been checked before they signed off on the sale. JMO... 2beez advocating for more government oversite!
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 04:28 PM
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This shooters dad apparently facilitated the gun card issue. Dad's who were willing to put the fear of God in the minds of their sons were more the norm when I was a kid. Not so common these days. Just part of the wimpification of the American male. Yes sir, the lack of father involvement is destroying this country.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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07/07/22 04:30 PM
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CBS just released a pic of the second rifle that was in the car. Still no pics or mention of make/model of the 1st rifle. The gun that was used to shoot dozens of people in Highland Park on the Fourth of July, killing seven, was a Smith & Wesson M&P15 semiautomatic rifle, which, according to the manufacturer, is an AR-15 style weapon whose initials stand for military and police. A Lake County prosecutor identified the make and model of the firearm at a court hearing Wednesday for Robert E. Crimo III, 21, who was ordered held without bail on murder charges. https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7...ic-rifle-fourth-july-parade-robert-crimo Interesting, there is a discrepancy here. Apparently it wasn't one of those evil ARs used in the shooting, But a Kel-Tec 2000. Those come in 9mm (lung blower outers) or 40mm. https://www.ammoland.com/2022/07/highland-park-shooter-kel-tec-sub-2000-rifle/Wish they would get stuff straight. I believe that was the one found in the car.
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Re: July 4th parade shooting.
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You don't get a juvenile record if the victims (Family) refuse to prosecute.....are you saying all police records should be supplied to the background system? How far do we go? I'm just asking because I don't believe we stop this type behavior until we get back to God and parent become involved, responsible, and stop the enabling. [/quote]
So your best idea is to pray the boogie man away. That's a good one. [/quote]
It’s the best and only idea that will truly work. The boogie man is real, known as Satan and we are no match for him. Just read many of these threads. Man screws up everything. Man created this, but man cannot fix it.
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