Parents and ISP might have to answer some questions. Especially since he had issues in 2019 with some knives and threatening to kill people.

Threatened to kill everyone

It is absolutely crazy that his dad would co-sign his FOID after the knife episode mentioned above

Maybe his father should be held liable for aiding and abetting or?

Sounded like the deep state asset was using a .308 or 762x39 to me.

Very sad...

Boy Orphaned

The paperwork that needed to be signed is a violation of the Constitution and won't hold up court.

He told the investigators he was looking for another target when the officers stopped him.

And in the end the coward just gave himself up. He confessed. Too bad he can't get the death penalty.

The FOID is simply another way to tax people. 25 years ago there was a crazy named Lori Dann who applied for and received a FOID card who clearly shouldn't have received one before she shot people. The scandal revealed that no back ground check was done. In this case it sounds like Dad took on the responsibility. I wonder if the State will go after him for signing the FOID?

[quote=Whammer7]The FOID is simply another way to tax people./quote]

This ^. Several years ago I was working a long term project in Illinois and I applied for and received their goofy FOID card. I think I still have it someplace. You cannot handle a gun in a gun shop unless you have a FOID card.

You need the FOID to handle a gun, buy a gun or buy ammo in IL

The blame should be put on government for creating the HIPPA laws. Not making mental issues public and available to LE agencies is making this issue impossible to stop.

So your saying they should have access to everyone’s medical files? Hell to the no on that one buddy…. You need to think that one through a little more,, I’ve never done a dang thing and nobody should have access to anything of mine for any reason. The world raising freaking pink haired retards isn’t my problem and Im not loosing my privacy nor my rights over it.

No
The blame is on the shooter's back, and his enabling excuse making family

Schools can't punish unruly kids
Courts can't punish criminals and thugs
The public in general doesn't want harsh punishments

Can't have everything both ways

The mental part should be made accessible for background check. It wouldn’t catch them all, but hopefully a few.

I don't know, but I think it would be hard to just release the "mental" part. Plus govt agencies haven't done real well at protecting personal information.

Thread carefully men, some of you are making cases for Redflag laws

Jimbo nailed that one. Plus it leaves for a lot of interpretation by people you probably don’t want interpreting

Dan bongino had a spot on take on them today. Ask yourself, do you trust your government?

Exactly my point, when you don’t have to earn a right you have zero respect for it. Every Barney Fife in the country would be looking up info on people he has no reason to and everyone’s info could be shotgunned “Accidentally” onto the web.

Our government is a Donkey Ball POS I wouldn’t trust any farther than I could toss them with a pencil much less any personal info of mine simply at thr fingertips… I’m sure all the alphabet letter guys have access to it anyway but not every rent a cop.

Exactly my point, when you don’t have to earn a right you have zero respect for it. Every Barney Fife in the country would be looking up info on people he has no reason to and everyone’s info could be shotgunned “Accidentally” onto the web.

Our government is a Donkey Ball POS I wouldn’t trust any farther than I could trust them with a pencil much less any personal info of mine simply at thr fingertips… I’m sure all the alphabet letter guys have access to it anyway but not every rent a cop. [/quote]

Barney Fife, er, police officers usually have to ask permission from a supervisor to access NCIC information, and they need a legit reason. "Rent-a-Cop" who would that be? Security Guards don't have access, so I assume you are referring to local police, if so shame on you and your kind.

People who are adjudicated as mentally defective have that record entered into their NCIC criminal history. They will be denied a firearm by the NIC operator who runs them. I’m all for this because I know how this system works and I know the legal burden of being adjudicated as MD. Millions of people, including many of our veterans, have had issues where they received counseling from mental health professionals and they recovered to lead productive lives. These records are not included in their criminal histories because the US congress decided so.

When I was an adjudicator, we had to get the DR to sign a release before releasing any info to us and many times they refused so we just didn't get the records. I've read some serious crazy stuff.

Barney Fife, er, police officers usually have to ask permission from a supervisor to access NCIC information, and they need a legit reason. "Rent-a-Cop" who would that be? Security Guards don't have access, so I assume you are referring to local police, if so shame on you and your kind.[/quote]

I’m not referring to local police, it was a blanketed statement meaning where does it end and I love your “Usually” comment. You made my point for me… . I don’t give a chit about NCIC or the use thr of. Give somebody an inch and they end up taking 47 miles and screwing your pet goat when your at work so the highest ranking cop in the US doesn’t need access to a flipping thing outside his pay grade..

I’m not referring to local police, it was a blanketed statement meaning where does it end and I love your “Usually” comment. You made my point for me… . I don’t give a chit about NCIC or the use thr of. Give somebody an inch and they end up taking 47 miles and screwing your pet goat when your at work so the highest ranking cop in the US doesn’t need access to a flipping thing outside his pay grade.. [/quote]

You screw my goat, and you have crossed the line.